But wouldn't you finger that as <c-1 d-2 g-3>? (Didn't check the number, I'm just meaning going infix vs postfix)
I can see that this idea of mine does have issues for fingering your way around (which seems to me it's more of a fingering atop thing, like you would have in a keyboard score) L On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, 12:32 Valentin Petzel, <valen...@petzel.at> wrote: > Hello Luca, > > changing the X-parent to the NoteHead would mean that we are aligning the > Fingering horizontally wrt. the NoteHead instead of the whole NoteColumn. > This > would then mean that if for example due to some chord some note heads are > on > the other side of the Stem the alignment of something like <c d g>-1-2-3 > would > change (disregarding that it wouldn’t even be clear what note head to use). > > Cheers, > Valentin > > Am Montag, 21. Februar 2022, 09:19:30 CET schrieb Luca Fascione: > > Hi Thomas, > > thanks for your comment, this helps me refine my understanding of what's > > going on. > > > > At the same time, while I do see that for other articulations (fermata, > > appoggiato) this parenting scheme works very well, > > I remain wondering whether for the style of layout of the fingering > > indications that I am after, the appropriate thing to do could be to > change > > the parenting altogether. > > > > If we look at chord for a second, I see the <one-note-chord> thing as a > > trick because to me even for proper chords the whole FingeringColumn idea > > is also a weird concept: imagine you're in say C major, and you're laying > > out fingering on the left of a chord like Fm <f aes c'>: I'm very unclear > > whether the most readable solution is to have the fingerings stacked one > > atop each other in a column (thereby more distant from f and c because of > > the intervening flat on the aes) or if instead the fingerings on f and c > > should be set tighter to their corresponding note heads and just the aes > > fingering be displaced left horizontally, to allow for the flat. I would > > like to experiment with various possibilities there, visually. I suppose > > you could still displace horizontally inside the column, and then push it > > all inwards closer to the chord even if the bboxes will overlap a bit... > I > > anticipate issues such as making sure the fingering for c' doesn't > > interfer with the ascender on the flat glyph, also. > > > > Which brings me to a question: what consequence would it have to replace > > the X-parent and Y-parent of the fingering to be the NoteHead instead? > > (I guess there will be a need to deal with the accidentals at a minimum) > > And also: how would I go at discovering these consequences without using > > too much of you guys' time? > > > > Thanks again, > > Luca > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 1:22 AM Thomas Morley <thomasmorle...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > Am So., 20. Feb. 2022 um 22:41 Uhr schrieb Luca Fascione < > > > > > > l.fasci...@gmail.com>: > > > > a) I'm looking for a way to get the fingerings where I want them > > > > without > > > > > > > > using one-note-chord tricks > > > > > > Well, for Fingerings not in chord, like b-1 or <b dis'>-2-1 X-parent > > > is NoteColumn _not_ NoteHead, Y-parent is VerticalAxisGroup. > > > There is no direct way from NoteHead to Fingering and vice versa. > > > > > > Thus putting Fingering in-chord is unavoidable, imho, even for single > > > notes. > > > It is _not_ a trick, but a requirement. > > > > > > Furthermore, you say you set music for classical guitar, then chords > > > will happen anyway, although not in your example. > > > Please note, as soon as more than one in-chord Fingering is present a > > > FingeringColumn is created. Which will make things even more > > > complicated. > > > See > > > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6125 > > > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/732 > > > > > > Sorry to be of not more help, > > > > > > Harm > >
