Graham, sob., 8 lut 2020 o 21:23 Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca> napisał(a):
> I don't have any reasons that haven't been mentioned already, > other than one meta-reason: proposals like this are very divisive. > Trying to have this discussion in the middle of a "final sprint > towards 2.20" was unfortunate. > True. A big mistake on my part. David, sob., 8 lut 2020 o 23:41 David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> napisał(a): > Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca> writes: > > I speak from experience on that last point: after the 2012 > > developer meeting at David's ranch (I think that was the year), > > I was all fired up and started a round of divisive discussions > > (I think it was the "grand lilypond input syntax standardization"). > > GLISS was not a new project: it had been ongoing from before my > involvement. A bit of a problem was that it had been going on for a > while without sensible feedback from those who had a good grasp of the > existing parser/lexer implementation of the input language of LilyPond, > and that input language had a lot of ad-hoc elements. > > > Within 2-3 weeks, I had squandered all of the good feelings and energy > > sparked from that meeting. I view that as my worst blunder from all > > my years of involvement with LilyPond. > > Hey, I had chalked this up to my slate. In retrospect, I saw LilyPond > in need to grow roots and you saw it in need to grow wings. And we were > both excited about its new momentum. You saw new potential but I am a > lousy follower: I am unable to follow through with anything that I don't > see as the best course. Heck, I am not even good at following through > with stuff I do see as the best course. > > You've clearly been the much better organiser and motivator: the people > who still keep the "shop running" are doing so in processes originally > set up by you and given meaning by you. And I am basically drawing > blanks when thinking about how to make people pick up the slack when > someone ultimately leaves. > > I still think we should have been able to make this work better between > us but have no idea how. And that's bad because LilyPond needs to > become better at making its community members count, and core > programmers can only do so much of the heavy lifting even when they are > all in agreement. > Thank you for these words, I find them inspiring! Janek