Janek Warchoł <janek.lilyp...@gmail.com> writes: > 2014-02-19 18:41 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>: >> Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> writes: >>> Janek's Tie Crusade? >> >> There is a three-month limit as far as I can see. There seems little >> point in proposing stuff that a student cannot realistically be expected >> to wrap his head around in the given time frame. >> [...] With something vague and complicated >> like "tie crusade" or "slur formatting", I don't see anything happening >> with a tangible result. > > I estimate the time needed for fixing tie formatting to be 120-200 > hours (for someone roughly familiar with LilyPond codebase).
What does "fixing tie formatting" mean? That no tie needs tweaking any more? > When we take into account that such estimates usually are 50% off, and > add 100 hours for getting familiar with the codebase, 100 hours for getting familiar with the codebase. To get to a state where you can sensibly design a new tie formatting strategy that fits into the current code and interacts with it. > we get 400 hours = 10 weeks of full-time work. Seems to be a > reasonable fit for GSoC time frame. Consider me unconvinced. > 2014-02-19 20:16 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>: >> Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> writes: >>> That may well be true, and my suggestion wasn't too educated. >>> But I had the impression that at least the Tie project was of a >>> reasonable size, >> >> What _is_ the "tie project"? There are lists of ugly ties. That's not >> a project. >> >>> and equipped with enough pre-research. >> >> I don't see anything that would serve as either a direction or a >> starting point. > > You know what? It's VERY frustrating to spend 200+ hours (during the > last 2 years) collecting examples and researching tie formatting, and > then see someone - especially an involved developer like you - say > "what tie project? what research? i don't see any". I did not say "what tie project?", I said "What _is_ the tie project?". That does not mean that I am of the opinion that nothing has been done, but that there is no specific objective spelled out that would be a suitable target for a limited-time project. > And i didn't only collect lists of ugly ties. I already have a spec > draft, and a pretty good idea how to approach the issue. You have a "spec draft" and yet you claim that the project is well-defined in a manner where everybody should know what it entails, making the question "what _is_ the tie project?" an insolence? > Several times i have offered to share my research. Usually it seemed > that noone cared to see it. > > So, I am really angry because of what you said and how you said it. So if what I had written was so foolish, how about you write a short GSoC proposal spelling out specifically what a student is supposed to achieve exactly in the three months assigned to the project? There may be something like 2 to 4 hours left before the proposal time window closes. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
