2011/4/15 Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca>: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:07:02AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> 2011/4/7 Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca> >> > You severely over-estimate either the number of "seasoned >> > developers", or the skill of most people on this mailing list. > ... >> > The same goes for virtually every aspect of lilypond. There are >> > very few actual "seasoned" developers, and most of those are very >> > busy with other things in their lives. > >> We are a team. Teamwork doesn't just mean having many people at work, >> it means helping each other - i don't have to remind you, you surely >> know this. > > Absolutely! > > But the development community has a very huge problem: > - the very skilled members generally have full-time jobs and > familes. > - it takes about 5 hours a week simply to keep "up to date" > with the various lilypond mailing lists. > - lilypond is a hobby, and some people only want to spend 2 or 3 > hours a week on such a hobby. > > I am allocating almost all of my 10 hours a week to reducing the > amount of time that it takes to keep informed. We can do much > better in this regard. Main points are: > - bug squad + issue tracker, so that programmers don't need to > look at user emails. Also updating issues with discussions > on -devel, so that in case nothing gets finished for months, > a programmer can quickly get "up to date" by reading the > material in (or linked from) the issue tracker > - organizing patches, including the "patch countdown" > annoucements.
I can help with this as soon as i regain my Lilypond enthusiasm (estimated to happen after finishing shortened flags). > Note that both of these points require little or no technical > ability. Non-technically-skilled users can help tremendously with > these points. And if we can reduce the time it takes to read > emails from 5 hours a week to 3 hours a week, that allows > programmers to spend more time programming or helping each other. I have an idea concerning this, should i wait for GOP or start a discussion? >> But i know my limits: now i've reached the limit of my skill >> and, more importantly, the limit of my psychical stength. I'm too >> tired to continue trying to do things that i don't know how to do. >> I ask for help and i hope that someone would take 15 minutes necessary >> to get things going here. > > Right. The main problem for you is: > - you need a mentor. Somebody who can guide you through the > steps, encourage you, and investigate if you get truly stuck. > > Unfortunately, Mike Solomon is the only programmer who has offered > to mentor people, and IIRC he's paired up with Benko Pal. Mike is also my mentor, see your mail "contributors / mentors" from 22 II. Unfortunately, he has been busy since April 3rd and said he will remain busy until next thursday. Nevertheless, without his help i would be much farther form finishing than i am now. Since my new patch passes regtests, can you change http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1582 status to patch_review? Janek _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
