On 16/7/24 11:35, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
On 12.07.2024 03:56, Richard Fontana wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 8:29 AM Nathan Willis via License-discuss
> <license-discuss@lists.opensource.org> wrote:
> >> And those factors would need to interact predictably with a specification document that is free to read, implement, and share ... but the specification should not be forked or modified (since that would defeat the purpose: interoperability). > > This is the key problem with your license in my opinion. It replicates
> a traditional assumption in the standards community that copyright
> should be used to prevent people from modifying specifications. I
> think this was rooted in a bygone era not around interoperability
> objectives but rather business models in which certain prominent
> standards organizations used the sale of  copies of standards
> documents as a revenue stream (perhaps some of them still attempt to
> do this).

This is not correct.

IETF in particular has never charged for access to its standards, but for at least 15 years has felt the need to put a license in place requiring that — outside of IETF processes — only unchanged copies can be distributed, or copies translated to other languages that preserve the meaning as closely as possible.

It's not a revenue question. The important issue is that all copies of an interoperability standard must say the same thing, or interoperability itself is defeated.


I second that for practical reasons. Sometime standards stale, and
nobody is anymore responsible for it. WG dissolves. It happens a lot.

Also I would like to have a WHATWG / HTML5 path: having freedom to fork
and continue, and ev. get it back.

So I would like more as TeX license: modifications requires change of
name (and possibly to make clear what it is modified and/or there is
modification.

Yes. Permitting forks, but requiring both the use of a separate name and clear attribution are within reason for open source licenses. (I've not surveyed the existing approved licenses for examples.)

- Roland




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