McCoy Smith <mc...@lexpan.law>: > Is the proposal to "revoke" or simply to "deprecate"?
I would accept "deprecate", with an understanding that deprecation should be considered fair warning that a license may be decertified based on further examination and experience. In fact, I think "deprecation" as a first step helps solve a process and PR problem for us by providing such warning. So kudos for bringing that up. > And, FWIW, it seems that a substantial > number of the problematic licenses have a very small user base, or indeed, > are only used by the original submitter. Which, to me, means we need worry less about the costs of decertifying them. > There is the other fairness angle here: if an already-approved license has a > problematic provision that might be violative of the OSD, is it fair to > reject future license submissions containing the same problematic provision? I say yes. A bad decision doesn't become a good one by repetition. > Several recent submitters have invoked a form of stare decisis based on past > license approvals, and have argued it is unfair to reject their license for > reasons that were not applied to past submissions. That fairness argument, > IMO, has some merit. If we are called out on such a clause, I think the proper response is not to double down on our mistake, it's to deprecate the antecedent license. > It would seem to me a first step in that process is to clearly articulate > and get community buy-in as to what the overarching principles and missions > are here. The OSD could be that, but it seems to me that many have argued > there are other principles and missions -- the "unwritten rules" -- that > underly the OSI's mission. Having unwritten rules, or rules that favor > certain submitters over others, seem to be the main cause of the debates > about fairness and the consistency of the process. There are two distinguishable cases here. I absolutely agree that we should have no rules that favor certain submitters over others. On the other hand, I don't have any problem with an evolving set of unwritten rules per se - they almost necessarily arise in a situation where we are interpreting a set of written rules such as the OSD. But... ...we *do* have duty to write down those rules when we realize what thet are and how they apply to a particular case. Such opinions would relate to the OSD exactly as case law does to statute. Wherther we want to have stare decisis or not should be regarded as a tuning knob on the machine. Common-law countrie have it, yes, but civil-law countries don't. -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> _______________________________________________ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@lists.opensource.org http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org