On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:45 PM Kevin P. Fleming <kevin+...@km6g.us> wrote:
> I don't mean to be abrasive here, but this thread demonstrates one of > the problems with the license-discuss/review mailing lists. It's not > unique to these lists, but solving it requires discipline. > > Please try to stay on topic. Patrick started this thread with a very > straightforward request for license stewards to provide information > about their licenses, and now the thread is rehashing preferences for > one license over another, OSL vs. GPL, etc, and hypothesizing what a > future OSL could be. None of that is inappropriate for this list, but > it's off topic for this thread, and that makes it harder for people > who want to participate in specific discussions to do so. As a regular > Discourse user, I can say that this is one *huge* benefit of that tool > over regular mailing lists: threads can be split off into separate > topics, so that readers and others can follow the topics they care > about and don't have to wade through things they don't care about. > Yes, the 'delete' key is right there, and it's not hard to press it, > but when someone posts a message which is both on-topic and off-topic > (as happens often), readers have no choice but to read through it all > to find the parts that are relevant. > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:27 AM John Cowan <co...@ccil.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:11 AM James <purplei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> FWIW, I only consider about five different licenses for new projects. > >> Not because they're necessarily better than OSL (I never investigated > >> that deeply) but because I am against license proliferation, and the > >> existing five are good enough. > > > > > > I have a more specific reason for disliking the OSL. The GPL creates a > separate commons from > > all the permissive open source licenses together because any programs > with GPL components > > must (according to common understanding) be released under the GPL. In > fact there are > > two such commons, one for GPL-2-only and the other for GPL-2-upgradeable > plus GPL-3. > > > > The OSL also creates its own commons, one that is never going to catch > up in size and richness > > with the GPL's. Furthermore, there is a separate commons for the > Non-Profit OSL, and apparently > > for each version of both. Therefore I would always discourage people > from using it despite its impeccable > > FLOSS Buddha-nature. This does *not* apply to the AFL. > > > > But if 1(c) in both the OSL and the NPOSLwere modified in a new version > 4 from: > > > >> with the proviso that copies of Original Work or Derivative Works that > You distribute or communicate shall be licensed under this Open Software > License > > > > > > to: > > > >> with the proviso that copies of Original Work shall be licensed under > this Open Software License, and Derivative Works that You distribute or > communicate shall be licensed either any version of this Open Software > License or of the Non-Profit Open Software > >> License or in the alternative under any version of the GNU General > Public License > > > > > > (or words to that effect), I would withdraw my objection. > > > > This can already be achieved on a case-by-case basis by > multiple-licensing language like "licensed under the > > OSL version 3.0 or, at the user's option, under any later version of the > OSL, under the GNU GPL version 2, or > > any later version of the GNU GPL", but most people aren't going to > bother with that. I'd like it to be an > > inherent part of the OSL. > > > > > > John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan co...@ccil.org > > Normally I can handle panic attacks on my own; but panic is, at the > moment, > > a way of life. --Joseph Zitt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > License-discuss mailing list > > License-discuss@lists.opensource.org > > > http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org > > _______________________________________________ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@lists.opensource.org > > http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org >
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