Hi, On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 12:40:42PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Ok - but then I see even less reason for another list, if it is > read-only. Gerrit already lets me get email for any number of events, > with filters & all. So if additional action is necessary anyway - > which subscribing to a 2nd list is - why not suggest to everyone > interested to customize his or her own private gerrit firehose?
That is mostly true, but having a list has some additional advantages: - Its an archive - Its searchable and discoverable in google - Some people dont wanna learn about gerrit and a mailing list is something that they easily know and understand (there are also people who know gerrit and dont like mailing lists, but there is no issue with that here) > Sure. But it seems people appreciate the occasional email poke about > new patches - why else was there the suggestion to have a daily digest > from the gerrit list? Well, yeah an occasional poke is fine. But having more than 50% of threads on the list to be automatic notification -- that then dont follow up with the content (the discussion), is not helpful. > I'm with you that the current situation leaves something to be > desired. I just disagree with the proposed solution, which in my mind > does not help anyone with deeper interest in LibreOffice hacking - > they'd have to subscribe to two lists, get even more email, and need > even more filtering to stay afloat. The majority of those not employed to work on LibreOffice seems to have a different opinion though. Also note that you dont _have_ to subscribe the second list: as you said gerrits watch feature should be just fine for most things. > - cut down current gerrit email somewhat, to an acceptable level > * it seems there is ~consensus that at least new patches should be > notified to the list I dont know if that is the consensus here, but I am certain its not my position. ;) The volume of mails is one issue, but the number of started threads is another -- esp. considering how this represents the development of LibreOffice to the outside world -- almost all representations, archives, mail and news readers of the list show a threaded view, and number of started threads is just as important as the total number of mails. > - encourage to have larger discussions on the dev list - hackers > watching such a discussion on gerrit could simply fwd the > notification email to the dev-list. That hopefully prevents the > 'oh, decision $foo happened on that other list' argument, and > ghettoization into pro-hackers and volunteer hackers lists. Agreed. Having visibility is good. ;) Best, Bjoern _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
