* Present: + Miklos, Kendy, Andras, Oliver, Sophie, Eike, Jan-Marek, Christian, David, Lionel, Stephan, Robinson, Bjoern, Bubli, Caolan. * Completed Action Items: + discard MAB series, started anew for high-prio. (Michael) + ask students to write their own wrap-ups to aggregate (Cedric) + http://bosdonnat.fr/gsoc-2015-wrap-up.html + write a nice blog entry about 1000's bibisect - including flowers (Robinson) + https://colonelqubit.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/libreoffice-qa-over-1000-bibisects-served/ + setup an IRC topic message for -l10n -> NLP (Cloph) + kill gconf integration (Bjoern) [ Should we kill it completely even proxies / user-name vs. KDE ? (Stephan) + settings are outdated anyway (Bjoern) + but they worked (Stephan) + gconf & KDE backends - for some specific config-items, getting data through the backends (Stephan) + dconf-thing, is different: reading all config items from dconf similar to Windows Registry reading. + but system settings are now in dconf (Michael) + could do something similar. + LibreOffice: the only app that depends on GConf (Bjoern) + only kept around for LibreOffice. + perhaps some obsolete proxy settings that Stephan has (Michael) ]. + killed to avoid testing matrix complexity (Bjoern) + gconf unused in KDE / Munich (Jmux) ] * Pending Action Items: + please check if you're listed in the mentoring page (All) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mentors [ still needs some action from Kohei, Cedric, Thorsten etc. ] + UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael) + UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael) + reach-out to Beta Co-working guy to book pre-FOSDEM hackfest (Bjoern) * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 4.4.6 + another RC requested for 4.4.6, RC2 not announced yet. + there will be an RC3 - as final next week. + create a tag Sunday/Monday - please review things for that. + 5.1.0 Alpha 1 + more or less ready + waiting for the -dev branded Mac build variant before announce. + will be used for the bug-hunt next weekend. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.0.0_RC1 + trouble with translation-tools ? (Bjoern) + Eike's 1x line fix wrt. ICU/boost/foo (Christian) + using the system-tools with a newer ICU, triggers a LibreOffice bug. + hopefully fixes this for everyone - thanks Eike. => good to have Alpha 1 nice and early (Bjoern) + 5.0.3 - RC2 status ? + tagged after the ESC call now. + OpenGL -> may disable post 5.0.3 / and apply feedback to 5.1 (Michael) + perhaps disable by default for 5.0.4 ? + Android & iOS Remote * UX Update (Kendy) + NotebookBar + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar + please sync. with marketing before big changes get screenshotted (Michael) + some confusion on the topic: + prototype can be generally useful. + doesn't need to be focused one way or the other. + Samuel wants a tabbed context + Heiko likes a general toolbar-like thing with menu on top. + easy to have both, configurable etc. + Table Styles + more discussion on the call. + Heiko & Jay talking it over. * Documentation (Kendy) + no new release of HelpAuthoring.oxt yet; new patches for XML help to merge. * Crashtest update (Caolán) + 0 import failures, 0 export failures, 405 coverity issues + most of new coverity issues are random Java stuff. + asan+ubsan crashtest run underway + will take another few days to complete. - plenty of fun stuff already. + keyboard event fuzzing had a few successes + produced some real-world crashers + graduated from a toy to something useful. + do we get a test-file for the future ? (Michael) + yes, logged with the test-file etc. (Caolan) + expected to heavily bit-rot over time. * Hackfests (Bjoern) + Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd -> 25th (Bubli) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2015 + Friday will celebrate the 5th birthday again with misc. parties / politicians joining in the fun. + wiki page - please do register there and file what your topic is. + Could we join the GNOME hack-fest in Madrid ? (Bjoern) + just a few hackers would be fine for cross-polination + no wiki page yet + Dec 2nd -> 4th planned. + potential mentors (other than Bjoern) speak up + if interested, contact him. + why do we need a mentor ? (Bubli) + to help new people with builds / code ptrs etc. + FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern) + could we book a separate room for us ? (Bubli) + afterwards - could invite people to join in ? (Bjoern) + perhaps try it beforehand this time. + next venues / suggestions + Belgium another candidate ... + perhaps again at Las Palmas (Thorsten) * l10n Update (Sophie) + no news, all going well. + question - about removing paragraph IDs from XML-help files (Kendy) + Olivier - says they are used somehow during translations. + how are they used ? would like to remove if possible. + suspect extraction depends on them (Andras) + must be unique in XHP file in order to dis-ambiguate identical English paragraphs (Christian) + in the source-code, same problem - but not an issue (Kendy) + can we make it non-mandatory and only for the strings that need this - to make XML human-readable. + can use shorter IDs - no problem (Andras) + just tweak the l10ntools as well (Miklos) => attempt to fix it. * Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten) + pending 8 weeks ... * Jenkins update (Norbert) + attempted fix of CLR locking issue (Michael) + copied key files temporarily before using them. + 2x builds in a row succesfully (Miklos) + perhaps it helped. * Easy Hacks: + new easy-hacks thanks to: + Björn Michaelsen, Markus Mohrhard, Dennis Roczek + http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX + create your own by setting whiteboard to eg. "easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup" + create new easy hacks from these proposed ones (or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible): https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard=needsDevEval * Icon-sets (Bjoern) + how can we encourage people to start from scratch & get clean licensing ? + usually they start for some desktop env. (Kendy) + cf. Breeze started as KDE, etc. => policy - to keep Galaxy clean (Bjoern) * QA update (Robinson) + UNCONFIRMED at 483 + needAdvice at 15 + Most Pressing Bugs: http://ur1.ca/nkp0t + tdf#76964 - Automatic capitalization of "i" in a non-english language + very problematic for Polish + i apologize about the 68 comments + tdf#94063 - EDITING References break when putting text behind them + tdf#91789 - UI: Crash on exit after format header + bibisected + tdf#94689 - Crash on new file, close file, open file + Michael: work in progress? + tdf#94225 - Writer crashes on undo + long-standing, from before LibreOffice. * QA stats + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +184 -257 (-73 overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: QA Administrators 93 Dennis Roczek 25 Maxim Monastirsky 12 Joel Madero 12 Julien Nabet 11 Beluga 11 Michael Meeks 8 tommy27 8 V Stuart Foote 6 m.a.riosv 6 Lionel Elie Mamane 5 Yousuf (Jay) Philips 4 Cor Nouws 4 Alex Thurgood 4 Eike Rathke 3 * Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"): 5.0: 11/47 - 20% 4.4: 10/70 - 14% 4.3: 6/67 - 8% 4.2: 12/132 - 9% 4.1: 4/79 - 5% 4.0: 11/81 - 13% old: 39/246 - 16% * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected' + 330/1074 324/1064 322/1047 324/1039 325/1029 330/1028 344/1028 + http://tdf.io/bibibugs * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + stats are for two weeks ... + 686(+3) bugs open of 4339(+12) total 45(-3) high prio. * ~Component count net * high severity regressions Calc - 19 (+0) Writer - 14 (-2) LibreOffice - 7 (+0) Impress - 2 (-1) UI - 1 (+0) filters and storage - 1 (+0) Base - 1 (+0) + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E * ~Component count net * all regressions Writer - 232 (-1) Calc - 144 (+1) Impress - 51 (+2) Crashes - 51 (-1) UI - 45 (+0) LibreOffice - 45 (+0) Borders - 28 (+1) graphics stack - 27 (+1) Base - 24 (-2) Draw - 21 (+0) filters and storage - 16 (+1) Chart - 11 (-1) Printing and PDF export- 11 (+0) BASIC - 10 (+0) Formula Editor - 5 (+0) Linguistic - 3 (+0) Extensions - 2 (+0) framework - 2 (-1) sdk - 1 (+1) + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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