Attending:
Thorsten, Andras, Kendy, Norbert, Christian, Petr,
Rainer, David, Bjoern, Kohei
* AA's done
+ announce new 4.0 wiki page (blog going live today) (Bjoern)
+ write list of things that suck for newcomers with taste (Mitch /
Christian)
+ write up a time-based release rational (Italo mostly did it for
Michael)
+ move all 'feature' bugs to new "most annoying for 3.5" bug (Petr)
+ list mailed with the number etc.
+ Petr to decide and come up with a static link of key bugs (Petr)
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria
+ come up with a concrete single-git-repo plan (Norbert, Kendy)
+ do the surgery at 3.4.2 time when merging is over (ish)
+ generate a preferred date for a point-two release (Petr, Bjoern,
David)
* AA still pending:
+ research when gio came into widespread being (Caolan)
cf. http://www.gtk.org/download-linux.html
+ the rdb setup stuff is still too cumbersome (Bjoern)
+ get SmartArt into master as an experimental feature (Thorsten)
+ investigate reviewboard and come up with a more concrete proposal
(Bjoern)
+ post single-git-repo plan to the dev list (Norbert)
* Agenda:
+ Action items
+ 3.4 release status (Petr)
+ RC1 going out ~now
+ large number of annoying bugs fixed
+ basic functionality is working well for users
+ RC2 / final next week
+ chasing tripple reviews for patches for 3.4.0
+ be great to broaden our reviewer base
+ TSC call time ...
AA: + 14:00 UTC - the new consensus time (get it right next time)
+ QA update / most annoying bug skim (Rainer)
+ where should bugs live ? links to other tracking systems
+ bugs should be in freedesktop bugzilla where possible
+ sometimes good to have triage via up-streams ?
+ lots of co-workers doing great work, testing happening
+ responsiveness improving
+ investing in gnumake / Lanedo
+ no objections at all.
+ 3.5 / schedule alignment with desktop cadence
+ should sync with majority of distros & D/T S/W
+ and release 2-3 months before them
+ so distributions pick up x.y.2 or x.y.3
+ 2-3 months before
+ Freeze Dec / June
+ release mid Feb / mid Aug
+ June is too soon to freeze for 3.5
+ so skip to Dec instead
+ schedule allows for QA over holidays
AA: + fill out the wiki with the proposed post-3.4 schedule (Petr)
AA: + look into a plan for notifing of package updates (Thorsten, Kendy)
+ Mitch / Christian's list of things that suck (Christian)
+ multiple git repositories pain (being fixed)
+ make crashing (make bug ~fixed)
+ used to developing on a branch & testing first
+ problems with waiting for a full clean build before commit
+ delay, and waste of time often outweighs benefits
+ understandable some cross-platform problems
+ incremental building problems: cause much build grief
+ update, and build fails: can be just dependency
breakage
+ gnumake again can help fix this.
+ module filenames (cryptic, windows names)
+ split modules with numeric prefixes - to help
compilers
+ should have human-readable source file names
+ classes always used together - can make sense together
+ autogen is triggering when new downloads needed
+ even so old-style make dependency problems around
+ namespaces painful: com::sun:star:: ... cluttering header
files
+ planned to fix for 4.0
* Next time:
+ continue most-annoying things discussion (Mitch)
+ own extensions repository (Rainer)
+ discussion concerning discussion concerning
future of our bug tracking System (Rainer)
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michael.me...@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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