Thanks for the reply, Ken. Please, read inline.

--- Em ter, 22/11/11, Ken Moffat <k...@linuxfromscratch.org> escreveu:

> De: Ken Moffat <k...@linuxfromscratch.org>
> Assunto: Re: [lfs-dev] Binutils 2.22
> Para: "LFS Developers Mailinglist" <lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org>
> Data: Terça-feira, 22 de Novembro de 2011, 17:49
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:59:04AM
> -0800, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:

...

> > How safe is the upgrade to Binutils 2.22?
> > 
>  *any* upgrade of the toolchain is unknown territory on an
> LFS
> system.  Seriously, if it becomes too old to build a
> current kernel
> (been there, seen it) then *add* a recent binutils and gcc
> in a
> different prefix and use that to build a current kernel,
> and then
> build a new system using the old system with new kernel as
> the host.

Please, let me know if I understand correctly: with this, I do not need to 
build chapter 5?

...

>  What are you expecting to gain from upgrading binutils
> ?  I'm just
> curious.
> 

...

> ĸen

I would like to understand:

1. What is exactly a or the toolchain.
2. How far can one upgrade LFS
3. Why the toolchain cannot be upgraded.

To do that, first I decided to make a copy of a virtual machine (I think it was 
LFS 6.5) and tried to upgrade everything. Of course, did not work.

After I started using Paco, it is easier to keep packages upgraded, so I 
started upgrading BLFS and other non-*LFS packages but Gnome (of which I use a 
small subset just to satisfy dependencies).

At the risk of  breaking the so-called toolchain, I decided to do the same with 
some LFS which I see other distributions upgrading regularly, and now only 9 
packages remain unchanged.

LFS (7.0) SVN-20111116 chapter 6 consists of 55 packages. With respect to 
SVN-20111116, my LFS - 6.5 6.7 6.8 have:

1. 9 packages older (unchanged)
2. 1 package upgraded and older
3. 4 packages upgraded and more recent
4. 41 packages upgraded

Below, you can find a list of the unchanged and more recent packages.

Package versions unchanged as in the original LFS - 6.5 6.7 6.8:

1. Linux API Headers
2. Glibc 2.10.1 2.12.1 2.13 
3. Binutils 2.19.1 2.20.1.20100303 2.21 
4. Coreutils 7.4 8.5 8.10 
5. Bash 4.0.28 4.1.7 4.2.0 
6. GRUB-1.98 
7. Man-DB 2.5.5 2.5.7 2.5.9 
8. Psmisc 22.8 22.12 22.13 
9. Sysvinit 2.86 2.88dsf 2.88dsf (probably) 

Package version upgraded but older version than LFS (7.0) SVN-20111116:
1. GCC-4.5.2 

Package versions upgraded more recent than LFS (7.0) SVN-20111116:

1. Ncurses-5.9.20110404
2. Grep-2.1.0
3. Udev-175
4. Vim-7.3.353

[]s,
Fernando de Oliveira
Natal, RN, BRAZIL




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