On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:43:36 -0500
Bruce Dubbs <bruce.du...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been looking at LSB and in running a couple of basic checks find
> that we have some missing libraries and programs in LFS/BLFS to get
> to compliance.  The discussion below is only a start.  There may be
> more needed after I get their more comprehensive test suite running.

Why on Earth do you care about LSB compliance?

The LSB is for the "user friendly," (ergo, bloated, flakey, chronically
unstable crap with apes Windows for end users, but doesn't do anything
genuinely useful) distro crowd.

Being compliant with that would mean using RPM by default, as well
as needing X and related packages as part of a base install, as well.

You are *not* going to sell out and degenerate into lowest common
denominator, mindless end-user garbage while I have anything to say
about it, LFS.  The vegetative, ex-Windows, "Barney and Friends"
demographic already have Ubuntu; they are *not* going to take over the
entire world, damn it.

I also refuse to retreat to OpenBSD and use that as my only
operating system, simply because Canonical have managed to convince
everyone else in the FOSS ecosystem, to commit to fecal matter as the
ideal end goal of software development.

Up until this point, anyway, this project has had standards, and if
you've forgotten about those, perhaps we need to resurrect Gerard to
remind you of them.

One of said standards is that the only things LFS includes, are those
elements that are necessary to produce:-

a)  A bootable *console* system.  X is in BLFS, or our own answer to
ports, where it belongs.

b)  At least a good percentage (if not all of it) of the Single UNIX
Specification text toolchain, including what is needed to compile other
applications, and NOTHING ELSE.

Not X.  Not Gnome.  Not any amount of other broken, bloated, useless,
brightly coloured garbage which ultimately doesn't do anything other
than either decrease stability, or generate superficial appeal with
people who are too stupid or ignorant to know better.

People who are sufficiently moronic to want that stuff, can either
install it themselves, or more likely, simply download Ubuntu.

This project has traditionally been developed by and for people with an
IQ of above 75.  It needs to stay that way.
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