Rob I agree with you completely - except for the out of order bit of course - and I would have ignored it as I understood what he was saying well before his explanation came through, but as I said, this isn't the first time, and this time I broke and said something.
Anyway - I said what I thought, he has replied with his view, and that's it over with as far as I am concerned, there are better things to get on with and talk about Cheers fro your input however Steve -----Original Message----- From: Robert HEATH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 04/05/2007 03:34 To: Steve Gillen; Guy Thornton; Mark Humphries; [email protected] Subject: RE: [LU] Turks Out of order, Steve............there was nothing anti-American about Guy's post............just good old valid information following up on a previous point. To call that anti-American is (if I dare creep towards this can of particularly malignant worms and lift the lid just for a millisecond, which I will probably regret) of exactly the same order as those who immediately react to criticisms of Israel with accusations of anti-semitism. Rob Heath Bangkok Khow So what's with this anti-American fervour you seem to have Guy? - note, I have no problem with you disliking or even hating Americans, that's your business, but I am interested as to why - Yesterday you said I should get rid of my wife - and it's not the first time you have said something to me because of her nationality (for those who don't know, she is American, but has passed all her tests etc and will soon be British!), and then there is the posting below. What causes these feelings for you I wonder? Your attempt yesterday to take me to task for suggesting a dislike for all things Turkish still couldn't resist a dig at my wife and her nationality, and it would seem to a tad hypocritical to call the kettle black when you yourself have obvious prejudices. Bear in mind that by no means am I the only regular member of this list with an American wife - I know of at least 2 others, and I'm sure they would wonder about your thoughts too - over and above the quite normal British piss taking about Americans which even we indulge in (probably more than most actually!). I await hearing the usual "war mongers" "Gun toting" "Voting for GWB" comments - or do you have any real reasons? Steve -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Thornton Sent: 03 May 2007 10:11 To: Mark Humphries; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LU] Turks On 3 May 2007 at 9:24, Mark Humphries wrote: > sickening aspect to all this was the defence put forward by the murderers, > that being they were incited to such action because Leeds fans were > allegedly doing nasty things to their national flag. > > Extrapolate that argument and their legal system clearly thinks that such > actions can, if not justify murder, incite otherwise sane, law abiding > citizens into some mindless frenzied defence of their nations honour. agreed, sadly though not the only country to have that attitude to their national flag. currently the only world superpower that likes to think itself as the saviour of democracy, the guardian of all that's good, the upholder of freedom and bastion against tyranny in the world has desecration of it's flag written in it's penal code as a criminal offence. you only have to do a google to find out over the years the number of people who have been fined, inprisoned by the state, beaten up and even killed by 'upright citizens' taking offence at someone burning the stars and stripes, stiching it on the back of their jeans, etc. and if they should be brought to court for taking the law into their own hands they usually get put a slap on the wrist while the perpetrator of the action (presuming said person survived) gets much worse. and yes the actions of Galatasaray are despicable the way they condone and sanction such activities but equally despicable, maybe even more so, is the spineless UEFA in effect turning a blind eye to such things, in any case not taking any real action apart from that proverbial smack on the wrist. interesting in on the ropes yesterday one of the things risible said was that on reflection whatever uefa said leeds should never have played the second leg against Galatasaray. guy _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist it's a God awful small affair _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist it's a God awful small affair _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist it's a God awful small affair
