steve old love, its dead easy to be anti-US. the thing is; that feeling is more anti US politics than anti-americans. same goes for Israel for quite a few. or france.
who gives a toss as long as you can differ between people and politics. my x is from the states, she knew I hated US politics. peace, love and no british food, Eric On 4 May 2007, at 03:34, Robert HEATH wrote: > Out of order, Steve............there was nothing anti-American about > Guy's post............just good old valid information following up > on a > previous point. To call that anti-American is (if I dare creep > towards > this can of particularly malignant worms and lift the lid just for a > millisecond, which I will probably regret) of exactly the same > order as > those who immediately react to criticisms of Israel with > accusations of > anti-semitism. > > Rob Heath > Bangkok Khow > > > So what's with this anti-American fervour you seem to have Guy? - > note, > I have no problem with you disliking or even hating Americans, that's > your business, but I am interested as to why - Yesterday you said I > should get rid of my wife - and it's not the first time you have said > something to me because of her nationality (for those who don't know, > she is American, but has passed all her tests etc and will soon be > British!), and then there is the posting below. What causes these > feelings for you I wonder? Your attempt yesterday to take me to > task for > suggesting a dislike for all things Turkish still couldn't resist a > dig > at my wife and her nationality, and it would seem to a tad > hypocritical > to call the kettle black when you yourself have obvious prejudices. > > Bear in mind that by no means am I the only regular member of this > list > with an American wife - I know of at least 2 others, and I'm sure they > would wonder about your thoughts too - over and above the quite normal > British piss taking about Americans which even we indulge in (probably > more than most actually!). > > I await hearing the usual "war mongers" "Gun toting" "Voting for GWB" > comments - or do you have any real reasons? > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Thornton > Sent: 03 May 2007 10:11 > To: Mark Humphries; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Turks > > On 3 May 2007 at 9:24, Mark Humphries wrote: > >> sickening aspect to all this was the defence put forward by the > murderers, >> that being they were incited to such action because Leeds fans were >> allegedly doing nasty things to their national flag. >> >> Extrapolate that argument and their legal system clearly thinks that > such >> actions can, if not justify murder, incite otherwise sane, law >> abiding >> citizens into some mindless frenzied defence of their nations honour. > > agreed, sadly though not the only country to have that attitude to > their national flag. currently the only world superpower that likes > to think itself as the saviour of democracy, the guardian of all > that's > good, the upholder of freedom and bastion against tyranny in the > world has desecration of it's flag written in it's penal code as a > criminal offence. you only have to do a google to find out over > the years the number of people who have been fined, inprisoned > by the state, beaten up and even killed by 'upright citizens' taking > offence at someone burning the stars and stripes, stiching it on > the back of their jeans, etc. and if they should be brought to court > for taking the law into their own hands they usually get put a slap > on the wrist while the perpetrator of the action (presuming said > person survived) gets much worse. > > and yes the actions of Galatasaray are despicable the way they > condone and sanction such activities but equally despicable, > maybe even more so, is the spineless UEFA in effect turning a > blind eye to such things, in any case not taking any real action > apart from that proverbial smack on the wrist. interesting in on > the ropes yesterday one of the things risible said was that on > reflection whatever uefa said leeds should never have played > the second leg against Galatasaray. > > guy > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions > of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > it's a God awful small affair > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions > of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > it's a God awful small affair > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views and > opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > it's a God awful small affair _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. 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