----- Original Message ----- > There are so many groups fighting different corners, seemingly wanting > slightly different things and throwing accusations about things that just > seem incredible!
Actually there aren't so many different groups. What happened was attempts were made to get the small number of different groups on-side in case the need (some might say opportunity) arose. Ready to back a move rather than get in the way because of mutual suspiscions. No rocket science there then. What you are seeing being revealed here is the attempt by a renegade loose cannon individual to hijack a team effort for his own agenda. He waged war on LUSC in the name of LUST for his own personal reasons, for example. He had no authority or mandate to do it but that is his style just as he did with the Radio, TV, and newspapers. Plans which were supposed to be an absolutely last resort were an anathema because he wanted self publicity and imagined glory. I think everyone wanted the SAME essential result but some individuals kid themselves that they are doing what they do for the club when they are really doing it for themselves. There was even a press release that was supposed to be about saving the club but somehow managed to talk about barbers shops in Scotland run by this fantastic loyal Leeds fan. Thankfully we manged to find out and recall it before he made us look total pillocks in the eyes of the media. I ask you though, how are you supposed to deal with an idiot like this when there is a vital cause to work towards. > Ever since Ridsdale went there have been so many bizarre emails saying > things in secretive, indecipherable manners that I just switched off. Many of those posts were directly aimed at people who DID understand their content. Like using a rifle and not a shotgun. > Maybe if things had been spelled out in plain English without this odd > language more people (including me) would have understood what you - or > any other group - was trying to achieve and how they were going to > achieve it! Maybe, but that was not the primary objective. Sorry, but it's true. The objective was always to do everything possible to ensure that our football club did not go the way of Fiorentina. Of course there was stuff in the background which would spell things out precisely and exactly, but it was very definitely for use as an absolute last resort because fans would have lost a LOT of money. Texts, documents, hidden websites, lots of stuff. It was not about individual glory. It would have been a last desperate throw of the dice in a critical situation. Krasner made his move and so it was not required. Bates won a last minute late night decision. Nothing more to talk about unless the purpose is self glorification and self publicity. How does that help the club ? > If you're going to take control of an organisation such as a business, > whether that be in the form of a football club or a "normal" business, > good communication is of utmost importance. Agreed but it never actually happened. That does not mean that all of the things required to plan, negotiate, investigate, cajoal, etc etc etc did not take place, because they did, incredible or not. It's history though. The situation and the club has moved on. New reality, new situation, new plans. We've had the communication bit anyway! or not ? > Why doesn't someone just come out and say just what happened and what > could have happened? Isn't that what Steves post just did ? What happened was that Krasner "rescued" the club from the Plc creditors, and Bates "rescued" the club from Krasner. The expressions- stage one and stage two have been in common use from the very start. That is what it means. What "could have" happened is that somebody else did the same things with a greater fans involvement. Obviously to have a greater fans involvement there are millions of things that had to happen and take place and discussions and all manner of what you would expect to be involved. It isn't going to get spelled out any more than that. It's not particularly secret but you already know the names of everyone who MUST be involved and they are not going to be interested in talking about it. It's over. They can speak for themselves if they want to. >Why all this innuendo? Are you afraid of offending > someone? There is no purpose to it. No benefit to the club. Who else matters ? >Saying something that could get you into legal problems? Didn't you understand what Mr Taylor was saying in his statement about the BVI ? There are no significant legal problems about what is now ancient history (except for some of the more madcap libellous outbursts) but the current stuff is dangerous in the extreme. >If the latter, would it not just be better to let it lie? I would be delighted to let it lie. I thought I made that extremely CLEAR. >If the former, surely better just to come out and say it as there seems to >be enough offence > being caused anyway! No matter what you say there is always somebody who tells you that you haven't said anything. > Maybe it's something else altogether. It's probably something I don't > understand - which wouldn't be the first time in this surreal saga. I think that it is only surreal now because people are unwilling to believe that this sort of thing has been going on all the time. A hell of a lot of it WAS posted but it just got shot down as being bollox. People have a choice to listen or not listen. Some listened others didn't want to. That's life. It's quite funny how some who shot it down at the time now believe that nobody told them anything. I'm not pointing this at yourself but there are plenty of others. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. 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