Given the seasonal all the angst about Radz being ‘penniless’ (in the 
football-club owning world) then having owners who can compete in the crazy 
world of football strikes me as a positive. I don’t care that much about being 
owned by a massive faceless corporate entity etc - I think that boat sailed 
long ago. 

Having said that, I’ll believe it when I see it!

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> On 15 Oct 2019, at 09:17, Richard Naef <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> My head disagrees, my heart says Yes! My spleen is undecided
> 
> Sent from my Mobile.
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Ian Murray 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:33:36 AM
> To: Matt Anderson <[email protected]>; Andy Brown <[email protected]>
> Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Times Article
> 
> Nah
> 
> Look Qatar/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Iran/Saudi whatever, they are always going to be 
> morally dubious whether they own Leeds or not.  Slightly fatalistic but we 
> can't change it, so if they want to spunk some of their ill gotten gains 
> making us champions of England/Europe then I for one am all for it.    Think 
> of the joy it will bring to our fans and the despair it will heap on our 
> rivals.   It would be fucking brilliant.
> 
> To be honest, I couldn't give a monkeys about credit from fans of lesser 
> teams or know-nothing journos.  We've never had any, anyway.
> 
> MOT
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Matt Anderson 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 11:53 PM
> To: Andy Brown <[email protected]>
> Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Times Article
> 
> I think I would still rather be shit than have Qatari investment. No one 
> gives Man City any credit for where they are.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2019, at 16:46, Andy Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> IZZANI INTERVIEW
>> Andrea Radrizzani: New Qatar investor ‘can get Leeds up to level of Man City’
>> 
>> Andrea Radrizzani tells Martyn Ziegler that he is considering three offers 
>> for stake in club
>> 
>> Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter
>> October 14 2019, 12:01am, The Times
>> 
>> Radrizzani insists that whatever happens at Leeds he wants to remain involved
>> DANIEL HAMBURY/PA
>> Share
>> Save
>> 
>> Leeds United celebrate 100 years of existence this week and at this pivotal 
>> moment their owner has revealed he is considering an offer from Qatar to 
>> take the club to a level where they could “compete with Manchester City”.
>> 
>> The biggest sleeping giant in English football has already stirred. If 
>> Andrea Radrizzani, their owner, goes through with the sale of a stake in the 
>> club to Qatari Sports Investment (QSI) or two other rich investors then it 
>> could be time to write a new chapter in the giant’s fairytale.
>> 
>> “I’m giving you more information than I ever gave to anyone,” says 
>> Radrizzani, over coffee in a Leeds hotel. The Italian says he views himself 
>> as a custodian of the club, and that bringing in a big investor would help 
>> to achieve his vision of taking Leeds to the very top of the beanstalk.
>> 
>> Qatar looks to be in pole position — QSI is run by Nasser al-Khelaifi, the 
>> president of Paris Saint-Germain, and a close friend from when Radrizzani’s 
>> previous firm, MP & Silva, was selling football TV rights and Khelaifi was 
>> buying them for beIN Sport. He will not reveal the identities of the other 
>> two under consideration, other than to say that one is a hugely wealthy 
>> Leeds fan based in the United States and the other the owner of an 
>> unidentified Italian club.
>> 
>> “I have been approached by more than 20 parties and I have selected these 
>> three,” Radrizzani says.
>> 
>> 
>> “The option of Qatar Sports Investment and Nasser — first of all they are 
>> friends, we have had a good relationship for a long time. Secondly, they 
>> have the possibility to bring this club to compete with Manchester City, so 
>> for the fans that could be a fantastic opportunity.
>> 
>> “The second is based in America, he’s a big fan of Leeds United since he was 
>> a child, and I like that.
>> 
>> “Another one is the owner of an Italian club. With another club you can 
>> create synergy to be more competitive and to target the Premier League — we 
>> could maybe get a loan to increase the quality of the team.”
>> 
>> Radrizzani, who bought Leeds in instalments of £20 million in December 2016 
>> and £25 million in May 2017, does not rule out selling a majority stake but 
>> insists that whatever happens he wants to remain involved.
>> 
>> “The most important thing for me is to make this club big again,” he says. 
>> “When I will open the door to others I don’t know, hopefully when we are in 
>> the Premier League. The financial support would be more important in the 
>> Premier League.
>> 
>> “When it will be done, it doesn’t matter which share [I have], it matters 
>> that I can continue my project and also have the support to build this club 
>> back again.
>> 
>> 
>> Radrizzani said Bielsa’s rigorous methods were just what were needed to sort 
>> Leeds out
>> ARRON GENT/JMP/REX
>> “L’appetito vien mangiando, as we say in Italy — appetite comes while you 
>> are eating. I don’t need to sell but it is important to listen because I 
>> always remember I am a custodian of the club. If it was my own business I 
>> would treat it a bit differently.”
>> 
>> Many figures from Leeds’s past, including from the glory days of the 1970s, 
>> will be invited back to Elland Road to celebrate the centenary on Saturday, 
>> when Birmingham City visit. Talk of the 1970s prompts Radrizzani to say 
>> “Dirty Leeds!” before adding: “We try to clean up the image of the club and 
>> I think that’s the right approach for the next generation. At the same time 
>> we need to keep the graft and passion of that team.”
>> 
>> There have been mighty changes at Leeds in the 2½ years since he took full 
>> control. He bought the stadium back in 2017, 13 years after it had been sold 
>> to reduce debt, and the next step is a new training base and academy, a 
>> stone’s throw from Elland Road. In 2017, there were only two academy players 
>> playing for national teams at youth level; now there are 14.
>> 
>> Appointing Marcelo Bielsa, the talismanic Argentine manager — and persuading 
>> him to stay after promotion proved elusive — was also a declaration of 
>> intent.
>> 
>> Radrizzani is open about the financial implications, saying: “It is very 
>> expensive, I invested over £90 million — with this level of money you could 
>> own a Europa League club in most of the European leagues, including Italy.
>> 
>> “The club makes losses, in this league it is impossible not to. We are still 
>> paying the consequences of my first year because I was inexperienced and we 
>> made some expensive mistakes with players.
>> 
>> “But we haven’t stopped investing. Bielsa and his staff cost £6 million [a 
>> year], we bought many other players and I think we have a squad to be 
>> promoted. It’s financially not sustainable to keep this level of salary 
>> which is now over £30 million, probably £33 million with Marcelo and closer 
>> to £40 million with the coaches.”
>> 
>> To get Bielsa, 64, was a coup — he is vastly experienced, including lengthy 
>> spells in charge of the Argentina and Chile national teams. His rigorous 
>> coaching methods, says Radrizzani, were just what were needed to sort Leeds 
>> out.
>> 
>> 
>> After starting the season unbeaten in seven matches, Leeds wobbled going 
>> into the international break with defeats away to Millwall and Charlton 
>> Athletic on successive Saturdays, but they remain just two points off top 
>> spot.
>> 
>> “We needed to set a culture of work ethic, when I arrived we were living in 
>> mediocrity,” Radrizzani added. “Finding a man like him [Bielsa], who some 
>> people might say is fixed in the methodology of 20 years ago, was needed. He 
>> was fascinated by the challenge, as I was.”
>> 
>> Radrizzani has been a fierce critic of the Football League for allowing 
>> owners of other Championship clubs to buy their own stadiums via another 
>> company to get past financial fair play [FFP] rules, and he reveals that he 
>> was approached by Middlesbrough to take part in their legal action against 
>> the league on the issue.
>> 
>> “The rules were not written in a way to avoid a conflict of interest and to 
>> shortcut FFP — 100 per cent it should change, it needs to be clear for the 
>> future,” he says. “Middlesbrough approached us to sue about the other clubs. 
>> In principle I agreed with them but decided not to do it because I wanted to 
>> focus on the football.”
>> 
>> Instead, it was Leeds who found themselves in breach of rules last season 
>> over the Spygate scandal, which led to a £200,000 fine after Bielsa sent an 
>> employee to watch Derby County training. That is now in the past, says 
>> Radrizzani, and has brought Leeds closer together. “We have a lot of haters, 
>> and that was a great occasion to come against us. It made us stronger and we 
>> are very proud to have haters.”
>> 
>> As to Leeds being a sleeping giant, Radrizzani says the slumber is over: 
>> “He’s awake. Now he has to make more noise.”
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Oct 2019, at 16:13, Tim Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just followed a tweet about a Times interview with AR claiming he has three 
>>> offers on the table for a stake in the club, including a (The originally 
>>> muted?) Qatar one that "Could transform us into the next Man City" - It's a 
>>> subscription service (Which I don't have) Anyone read it? Got a copy?
>>> 
>>> Ta
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> ________________________________
> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Ian Murray 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:33:36 AM
> To: Matt Anderson <[email protected]>; Andy Brown <[email protected]>
> Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Times Article
> 
> Nah
> 
> Look Qatar/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Iran/Saudi whatever, they are always going to be 
> morally dubious whether they own Leeds or not.  Slightly fatalistic but we 
> can't change it, so if they want to spunk some of their ill gotten gains 
> making us champions of England/Europe then I for one am all for it.    Think 
> of the joy it will bring to our fans and the despair it will heap on our 
> rivals.   It would be fucking brilliant.
> 
> To be honest, I couldn't give a monkeys about credit from fans of lesser 
> teams or know-nothing journos.  We've never had any, anyway.
> 
> MOT
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Matt Anderson 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 11:53 PM
> To: Andy Brown <[email protected]>
> Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Times Article
> 
> I think I would still rather be shit than have Qatari investment. No one 
> gives Man City any credit for where they are.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2019, at 16:46, Andy Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> IZZANI INTERVIEW
>> Andrea Radrizzani: New Qatar investor ‘can get Leeds up to level of Man City’
>> 
>> Andrea Radrizzani tells Martyn Ziegler that he is considering three offers 
>> for stake in club
>> 
>> Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter
>> October 14 2019, 12:01am, The Times
>> 
>> Radrizzani insists that whatever happens at Leeds he wants to remain involved
>> DANIEL HAMBURY/PA
>> Share
>> Save
>> 
>> Leeds United celebrate 100 years of existence this week and at this pivotal 
>> moment their owner has revealed he is considering an offer from Qatar to 
>> take the club to a level where they could “compete with Manchester City”.
>> 
>> The biggest sleeping giant in English football has already stirred. If 
>> Andrea Radrizzani, their owner, goes through with the sale of a stake in the 
>> club to Qatari Sports Investment (QSI) or two other rich investors then it 
>> could be time to write a new chapter in the giant’s fairytale.
>> 
>> “I’m giving you more information than I ever gave to anyone,” says 
>> Radrizzani, over coffee in a Leeds hotel. The Italian says he views himself 
>> as a custodian of the club, and that bringing in a big investor would help 
>> to achieve his vision of taking Leeds to the very top of the beanstalk.
>> 
>> Qatar looks to be in pole position — QSI is run by Nasser al-Khelaifi, the 
>> president of Paris Saint-Germain, and a close friend from when Radrizzani’s 
>> previous firm, MP & Silva, was selling football TV rights and Khelaifi was 
>> buying them for beIN Sport. He will not reveal the identities of the other 
>> two under consideration, other than to say that one is a hugely wealthy 
>> Leeds fan based in the United States and the other the owner of an 
>> unidentified Italian club.
>> 
>> “I have been approached by more than 20 parties and I have selected these 
>> three,” Radrizzani says.
>> 
>> 
>> “The option of Qatar Sports Investment and Nasser — first of all they are 
>> friends, we have had a good relationship for a long time. Secondly, they 
>> have the possibility to bring this club to compete with Manchester City, so 
>> for the fans that could be a fantastic opportunity.
>> 
>> “The second is based in America, he’s a big fan of Leeds United since he was 
>> a child, and I like that.
>> 
>> “Another one is the owner of an Italian club. With another club you can 
>> create synergy to be more competitive and to target the Premier League — we 
>> could maybe get a loan to increase the quality of the team.”
>> 
>> Radrizzani, who bought Leeds in instalments of £20 million in December 2016 
>> and £25 million in May 2017, does not rule out selling a majority stake but 
>> insists that whatever happens he wants to remain involved.
>> 
>> “The most important thing for me is to make this club big again,” he says. 
>> “When I will open the door to others I don’t know, hopefully when we are in 
>> the Premier League. The financial support would be more important in the 
>> Premier League.
>> 
>> “When it will be done, it doesn’t matter which share [I have], it matters 
>> that I can continue my project and also have the support to build this club 
>> back again.
>> 
>> 
>> Radrizzani said Bielsa’s rigorous methods were just what were needed to sort 
>> Leeds out
>> ARRON GENT/JMP/REX
>> “L’appetito vien mangiando, as we say in Italy — appetite comes while you 
>> are eating. I don’t need to sell but it is important to listen because I 
>> always remember I am a custodian of the club. If it was my own business I 
>> would treat it a bit differently.”
>> 
>> Many figures from Leeds’s past, including from the glory days of the 1970s, 
>> will be invited back to Elland Road to celebrate the centenary on Saturday, 
>> when Birmingham City visit. Talk of the 1970s prompts Radrizzani to say 
>> “Dirty Leeds!” before adding: “We try to clean up the image of the club and 
>> I think that’s the right approach for the next generation. At the same time 
>> we need to keep the graft and passion of that team.”
>> 
>> There have been mighty changes at Leeds in the 2½ years since he took full 
>> control. He bought the stadium back in 2017, 13 years after it had been sold 
>> to reduce debt, and the next step is a new training base and academy, a 
>> stone’s throw from Elland Road. In 2017, there were only two academy players 
>> playing for national teams at youth level; now there are 14.
>> 
>> Appointing Marcelo Bielsa, the talismanic Argentine manager — and persuading 
>> him to stay after promotion proved elusive — was also a declaration of 
>> intent.
>> 
>> Radrizzani is open about the financial implications, saying: “It is very 
>> expensive, I invested over £90 million — with this level of money you could 
>> own a Europa League club in most of the European leagues, including Italy.
>> 
>> “The club makes losses, in this league it is impossible not to. We are still 
>> paying the consequences of my first year because I was inexperienced and we 
>> made some expensive mistakes with players.
>> 
>> “But we haven’t stopped investing. Bielsa and his staff cost £6 million [a 
>> year], we bought many other players and I think we have a squad to be 
>> promoted. It’s financially not sustainable to keep this level of salary 
>> which is now over £30 million, probably £33 million with Marcelo and closer 
>> to £40 million with the coaches.”
>> 
>> To get Bielsa, 64, was a coup — he is vastly experienced, including lengthy 
>> spells in charge of the Argentina and Chile national teams. His rigorous 
>> coaching methods, says Radrizzani, were just what were needed to sort Leeds 
>> out.
>> 
>> 
>> After starting the season unbeaten in seven matches, Leeds wobbled going 
>> into the international break with defeats away to Millwall and Charlton 
>> Athletic on successive Saturdays, but they remain just two points off top 
>> spot.
>> 
>> “We needed to set a culture of work ethic, when I arrived we were living in 
>> mediocrity,” Radrizzani added. “Finding a man like him [Bielsa], who some 
>> people might say is fixed in the methodology of 20 years ago, was needed. He 
>> was fascinated by the challenge, as I was.”
>> 
>> Radrizzani has been a fierce critic of the Football League for allowing 
>> owners of other Championship clubs to buy their own stadiums via another 
>> company to get past financial fair play [FFP] rules, and he reveals that he 
>> was approached by Middlesbrough to take part in their legal action against 
>> the league on the issue.
>> 
>> “The rules were not written in a way to avoid a conflict of interest and to 
>> shortcut FFP — 100 per cent it should change, it needs to be clear for the 
>> future,” he says. “Middlesbrough approached us to sue about the other clubs. 
>> In principle I agreed with them but decided not to do it because I wanted to 
>> focus on the football.”
>> 
>> Instead, it was Leeds who found themselves in breach of rules last season 
>> over the Spygate scandal, which led to a £200,000 fine after Bielsa sent an 
>> employee to watch Derby County training. That is now in the past, says 
>> Radrizzani, and has brought Leeds closer together. “We have a lot of haters, 
>> and that was a great occasion to come against us. It made us stronger and we 
>> are very proud to have haters.”
>> 
>> As to Leeds being a sleeping giant, Radrizzani says the slumber is over: 
>> “He’s awake. Now he has to make more noise.”
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Oct 2019, at 16:13, Tim Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just followed a tweet about a Times interview with AR claiming he has three 
>>> offers on the table for a stake in the club, including a (The originally 
>>> muted?) Qatar one that "Could transform us into the next Man City" - It's a 
>>> subscription service (Which I don't have) Anyone read it? Got a copy?
>>> 
>>> Ta
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leedslist mailing list
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>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/
>>> 
>>> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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