He gets caught out fairly frequently though. He as dragged off a couple of
times last season when up against pacey midfielders - Brentford being the
obvious one.
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019, 16:58:16 BST, Robert Heath
<[email protected]> wrote:
Another snowflake (whatever that means) writes: Yeah, and the fact that
that kid with a horrible haircut outpaced Phillips on that break is
actually a point in his favour...........he was shown there to be not
exactly turbospeed, but the very fact that he is so rarely caught out in
situations like that is a tribute to his positioning and anticipation.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:11 PM Simon McNally <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it’s a fair point. You’d think that Forshaw’s passing stats would
> look quite good because all he ever does is pass slowly sideways and
> backwards. Sometimes he even manages to mess that up though. I imagine if
> Kalvin is attempting risky long range passes it’s because Bielsa has told
> him to.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 14 Aug 2019, at 15:55, Nick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > that 60 yarder for Bamford to spoon just wide on Saturday was Hoddlesque
> (without the god bothering)
> >
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >> From: Richard Naef <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> >> Date: 14 August 2019 at 15:39:30 BST
> >> To: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]>, Richard Walker <
> [email protected]>, "leeds list ([email protected])" <
> [email protected]>
> >>
> >> If you don't try difficult things and occasionally fail (16%) then
> what's the point. Perhaps some of the 16% did cause problems but that's
> what the other 10 players are for and Bielsa isn't going to criticise him
> for that.
> >>
> >> I think Dave made the point that comparing Batty to Macca was pointless
> as there attempts at passing were of completely different types. KP is a
> defensive midfielder, very little gets through BUT he also sets up counter
> attacks and plays defence splitting passes. If you think he's average your
> are entitled to your opinion, but I just think that's plain wrong and not
> born out by the facts of last season or the beginning of this, maybe you
> need to amend your expectations of a top championship DM? Who are you
> comparing him with?
> >>
> >> Sent from my Mobile.
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 3:07:22 PM
> >> To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>; leeds list (
> [email protected]) <[email protected]>; Richard Naef <
> [email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> >>
> >> I recommend you watch again Richard and actually look for the passes he
> gave away. They were problematic.
> >>
> >> Phillips has come on leaps and bounds but he does have issues.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 09:56:57 AM EDT, Richard Naef <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> LOL. 15 long passes, 84 Medium and Short.
> >>
> >> Sent from my Mobile.
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:47:35 PM
> >> To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>; leeds list (
> [email protected]) <[email protected]>; Richard Naef <
> [email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> >>
> >> Most of the game Phillips sat in midfield with noone anywhere near him.
> During the game I told the boy I could sit there and do that too and give
> the ball away less (some hyperbole there of course). With Rich a bit here,
> stats do not tell everything. 100 short passes looks great and is not
> necessarily a bad thing but when 4/5 through balls go straight to the other
> side and sets up their attack there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 05:48:08 AM EDT, Richard Naef <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I’m definitely a snowflake and I hug trees and don’t wash regularly,
> but when deciding on things I prefer facts to opinions, which of course you
> are entitled to have and express on an open forum. Of course you don’t
> like facts and stats that contradict your opinions, who does, but just
> ignoring them and accusing others of getting upset is a bit rich (pun
> intended). If you think 16% is “frequent” in the context of a fast flowing
> match against committed (albeit limited) opponents, can you give us an
> example of the stats you would expect from an ABOVE average player, one
> that would reduce the pain you say you feel from watching one of our most
> improved and committed players? C’mon Rich, we all know your schtick on
> here & Twitter is to be angry and contrarian to wind people up, but you’re
> amongst friends here, just once, just for us, crack and smile and gives us
> a WHOOP – promise we won’t tell anyone.
> >>
> >> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> >> Sent: 14 August 2019 10:37
> >> To: leeds list ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Richard Naef <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> >>
> >> stats are stats and looking at those they mean nothing. For instance
> they don't include his shot that went over the stand in the first half.
> >>
> >> I'd prefer to go with what I saw and overall I thought Philips did ok
> with a definite improvement in the second half with one or two really good
> passes.
> >>
> >> First half though, he was dreadful. His passing was all over the place,
> frequently giving the ball away (that must have been the 16% inaccurate
> passes). The most worrying thing is when he got done for pace by Towell and
> you could see he just didn't have the acceleration to recover.
> >>
> >> I like Philips, he's a local lad and he's doing ok at this moment in
> time but let's have a reality check. Some fans are saying he could be
> England captain whereas I think he's a good championship player and would
> struggle in the PL.
> >>
> >> It makes me laugh when fans get all upset when you point out a player's
> faults in a match and get all abusive and start crying particular on
> Twitter however there are 1 or 2 snowflakes on here. Come on, grow up FFS.
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019, 09:01:10 BST, Richard Naef <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> ><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Kalvin Phillips vs. Salford City:
> >>
> >> 128 touches (most) 🌟
> >> 99 successful passes (most) 🌟
> >> 84% pass accuracy
> >> 15 successful long passes
> >> 5 ball recoveries
> >> 2 chances created
> >> 2 accurate crosses
> >> 2 shots on-target
> >>
> >> Defensive midfielder.
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