Yeah Rob, please don't start another on list fight with the Dr. If you want to bash each other over the head, please do it off list!
Ta Jeremy ________________________________ From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:44:46 AM To: Rob Heath Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester Don’t even start. Stay off line. Have you no self-control? Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 BLOG: Times Of Israel<http://tinyurl.com/guhlezv> ||Quora<https://michaelbenjamin.quora.com/> ||Jerusalem Post<http://www.jpost.com/Blogger/Michael-Benjamin> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;<https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Benjamin/e/B00ZTT5HUK> myRay: Online CBT<http://www.myray.org/> From: Rob Heath [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:36 PM To: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]; Leeds List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester We do not want to be lectured about "terrorism" and "security" from an Israeli, thank you very much. It is so easy to light some candles, give some blood and mutter about evil deranged muslims.............doesn't anybody ever ask themselves what islamic terrorism is REALLY about? It all stems from something that was written in a letter on 2 November 1917 (no, I'm not that fanatical............I just looked it up!) The Balfour Declaration................that, compounded by the unspeakable evil of the nazis, has led us to where we are today. And btw..............what an outrageous piece of cynicism for May to now declare a nationwide state of emergency. Blatantly using those dead kids to further her message about the need for "Strong & Stable" leadership. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Michael Benjamin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It isn't business as usual. It never can be. It means vigilance and guards. It means profiling. It means dawn raids and searches. As I get on my El Al flights I am aghast at the armed presence. They can only make things worse. Sure, it's a feel good factor but if they open fire they'll kill a lot more than e terrorist. How does it stop? By having guards who intercept the terrorist. A lot die for their efforts. But the 'kill rate' falls dramatically. So low it is no longer is effective. Civil liberties are curtailed. You have no alternative. Profiling is unpleasant. Right now the UK is in a worse position than we were. We can identify the problem areas and if need be close them down. It's cruel It is collective punishment. It works. The same goes for profiling. Sorry, it is not business as usual. If it is, expect a lot more deaths. Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772<tel:%2B972-505-317772> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE; myRay: Online CBT |-----Original Message----- |From: Leedslist [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of |[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> |Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:10 PM |To: Leeds List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> |Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester | |I doubt anyone could see the picture of the 8 year old girl and not get upset - |anyone normal that is !Odd feeling around the place at present - I went to the |Lowry Theatre last night and it was business as usual- almost - they never usually |do any sort bag checking but last night they did have 2 old dears (it is mainly |staffed by volunteers) looking in handbags. It was a sell out crowd and every seat |was full so no-one appeared to be 'scared off' - it was odd on the way out |afterwards to see 2 police cars - one from Wales with Heddu written on it - with |3 coppers stood with them, 2 with machine guns and one with a hand gun - they |were getting pizza from a local pizzeria. I hate to see armed police and hope this |does not become the normI know friends who are going, as normal, to the town |centre tonight to watch their game and I am off into Piccadilly on Saturday for a |few beers. |I do know a lad with 2 young daughters who had tickets for the MEN but could |not go and gave the tickets away, thankfully to people who stayed safe (that |would not be a good thing to have on your conscience if they had died) and he is |worried about taking them into town over the weekend for the marathon or |whatever it is. He does not want the terrorists to 'win' but fears for their safety |and thinks that they will be too worried to enjoy themselves - difficult decisions |The saving grace of it all is the fact that it is one (or maybe a few) nutters who |did this atrocious act but the number of people who did great things during and |afterwards is in the hundreds if not more - rescuing people, giving free taxis, |giving so much blood they have stopped taking it , people taking food to the |hospitals, and the various collections for the victims families and for the two |homeless lads who helped are going through the roof. |We will have the flag at half mast tonight at cubs to show our respect I am not |however having a bee tattooed on myself at weekend despite the Manchester |tattoo association saying they will do them for a £50 donation to the victims fund |dave | | | From: Graham Thirkill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> | To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2017, 19:32 | Subject: [LU] : Manchester | |Richard Naeff said: Quote |> Hope Dave and anyone else with connections to Manchester is OK - can't all |sides just stop killing Children? |> ttfn Richard Quote” | |May I second Rich’s, post…Iv’e crie…...but not ashamed, I’m a father and grand- |father and uncle. It’s heartbreaking, thinking, any of these unfortunate, lovely |kids could have been one of my lovely kids…To Manchester people... I take my |hat off to you all, you have been amazing, the way you “ALL" have come out and |done your utmost, to help these magic people who were caught up in terror in |you city……..with your courage, kindness, support and help……. |Thanks from a Yorkshireman. | |Cheers and Beers |Thirkers\08/ |_______________________________________________ |Leedslist mailing list |Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist |To unsubscribe, email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | | |MARCHING ON TOGETHER | | | |_______________________________________________ |Leedslist mailing list |Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist |To unsubscribe, email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | | |MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
