On 23.2.2022 16.13, sophi wrote:
Answering in detail to your request,
Le 23/02/2022 à 14:13, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory
Translation.
Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free
machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare
typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no
match.
Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before
committing translation.
You were in the team meeting yesterday when we discussed it. Before
going there, we need to investigate on several topics. Following that, I
wanted to open another thread to get feedback on Matecat that you
proposed (thanks :). Testing it this morning, I see it covers a good
list of languages and several formats. Compared to the others, it would
remove the expensive costs of some or legal issues.
I looked more deeply into Matecat now - I never before managed to find
information about the way it uses machine translation. It looks like
Matecat itself will not give us any benefits. See these resources:
https://guides.matecat.com/my
"By default, we provide Google Translate API (we pay for it and offer it
for free to Matecat users). If for any reason the Google Translate API
is not available, we automatically switch to the Microsoft Bing API."
https://guides.matecat.com/machine-translation-engines
It looks like ModernMT is the system that is associated with Matecat
creators:
https://guides.matecat.com/modernmt-mmt-plug-in
It is open source, even though it has a higher quality version for
enterprises:
https://github.com/modernmt/modernmt
Weblate does support it, also with a self-hosted version:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/main/weblate/machinery/modernmt.py
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1627#issuecomment-657171205
However, Weblate also supports LibreTranslate, which uses OpenNMT at its
core:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/main/weblate/machinery/libretranslate.py
https://libretranslate.com/
https://github.com/LibreTranslate/LibreTranslate
https://github.com/argosopentech/argos-translate
https://opennmt.net/
Could you please also evaluate LibreTranslate in addition to ModernMT?
Ilmari
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