Hello, I second Kruno.
I really don't think that suggestions from old versions (which were never approved) are carried onto the newer versions, but I also think it's hardly justifiable to waste time hunting and carrying them one by one into the newer branches (not with the typical speed of a heavily loaded Pootle installation anyway). Furthermore, just like Kruno wrote, all approved strings are carried over to the newer branch when that branch gets introduced, so whatever you lose from your translation, you lose either because the original string has been changed, or because its identifier has been changed for some reason, but even then, the original strings will typically show up as suggestions for the new ones, and regarding the second reason in particular, that is an infrastructure thing, which should ideally be resolved by the L10n infra team (or whatever they are called), not the localizers. While it's not impossible that some strings might be removed from one release just to reappear in another one, it's hardly common enough to justify keeping these old branches indefinitely. On the other hand, keeping them has some drawbacks as well: it means even more load on Pootle, and might make an impression that it's worth spending time updating L10n of these old releases (which it isn't, when the branch is finalized and no new releases are planned). If you look at our Pootle homepage (https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/), you'll see that some contributors are still spending their time on 4.3 and 4.4 branches, and for what reason, when these branches are defunct already? In my strong opinion, time spent on these obsolete branches today is very much time uselessly wasted. Someone has contributed a change on 4.3 branch as recently as two days ago, and that branch hasn't had a release for almost a year now. Even if that change was just carried over from newer branches, it was pretty much pointless waste of time, at least in my opinion. All in all, I think these obsolete branches should be removed from Pootle ASAP, or at the very least made read only. I would probably even go as far as suggest localization teams to disable anonymous contributions and any suggestions on all branches but one: the one on which the team in question actually works and which could later be morphed into the newer one, when the time comes. This way it would be easier for incomplete locales to concentrate their effort, instead of reviewing potentially conflicting suggestions on multiple branches. Also, this would probably allow to not lose suggestions due to branch change (although I'm not 100% sure about this). Regards, Rimas 2016-04-12 10:13, Kruno wrote: > On 04/12/2016 05:49 AM, chandrakant dhutadmal wrote: >> If so, in that case also it would be good to check what translations >> were done by previous translators. > > I sure agree with that but my logic was that older translations get to > newer versions so they are technically not lost. Translation you find > 'correct' is included in newer version. > > If something is good in 4.4, it's making to 5.1, but if it's not, you > are still gonna make suggestion that is and so it gets to 5.1. > > What's not translated in older, it's not gonna be in newer. > > I don't know if Pootle suggesting suggestion from older versions: > don't know if you can see suggestions that where not approved for 4.4 > when you translating 5.1. > > But I do realize that differences in translations for different > versions can be helpful (for comparing and such) and I'm not trying to > argue that. > > Kruno > > >> >> On Monday, April 11, 2016 2:22 AM, Sérgio Marques >> <smarque...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Mihovil >> >> For Portuguese you can remove 4.x projects for sure. We won´t touch it >> anymore. >> >> 2016-04-09 10:39 GMT+01:00 Mihovil Stanić <miho...@miho.im>: >> >>> I see other languages have same projects also, so not sure if you can >>> remove just ours (HR). >>> But since 4.3 / 4.4 / 5.0 aren't used any more I think it's safe to >>> remove >>> it for everyone? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Mihovil >>> >>> 08.04.2016 u 10:07, Kruno je napisao/la: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I wonder if it's possible to remove old LO versions from Pootle for >>>> Croatian. We still have 4.3 and 4.4 so Pootle is suggesting >>>> translations >>>> from this projects as well but those suggestions are often outdated or >>>> wrong and seeing them in suggestion filed can be quite confusing and >>>> unnecessary. >>>> >>>> (And how helpful translation from 4.3 can be for translating master >>>> when >>>> everything from 4.3 already is in master, and we are just being >>>> suggested >>>> something we corrected) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kruno >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >> >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
