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From: larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: Re: KX-T: KX-TD1232  extension ring problem
Date: 1/14/04 9:08:21 PM


all the panos i've seen have a 4 slot ring sequence, so if you want them all to ring 
at the same time, they have 
to be every 4th extension. ie: 101,105,109,113,117,121,125,129 ring at the same time. 
103,107,111,115,119 etc will 
ring at the same time, but between the first group above.  102 group and 104 group 
will ring between the first 
two.  if you have 101, 102 103 and 104 set to ring on incoming, they will ring 101, 
then 102, then 103, then 104, 
then back to 101 again.  one of the 4 will always be ringing.  we used to put all the 
incomings on 101(usually 
receptionist, and then use 105, 109 etc for any other phones that needed to ring.  If 
we needed more than were 
available, we would then use 103... but then split the building, put all the 101... in 
the front half, and all the 
103... in the back half.  did i say it's good to plan your installs;-) oh- i should 
have used ports instead of 
extensions above, the hardware sets the sequence, the extension number can be 
anything. 

every system that uses 90 volt ring, will sequence. telephone co's did this with a 5 
period sequence (oddly there 
were 5 common ringer frequencies, created for party line service - two standards to 
boot, harmonic and decimonic, 
i remember a third, i think it was something like syncronic)  most key systems used 
low voltage buzzers, so it 
wasn't a problem ringing everything once a cycle, and with tones (from the set 
speaker) power had little to do 
with ringing.  fyi, 20 Hz (or 16/20/25/33/46/50/66 Hz) at 105 volts isn't easy to 
make. orignally it was from a 
motor alterator set, later from a mechanical vibrator(hummer;-), then a resonant 
transformer, and now transistors 
or ic's.  if you have a line with 5 ringers on it, it can take almost 1/10 amp to ring 
them!  that's a lot of 
power, thus you spread the load by ringing 4/5 groups, one at a time.  

-larry
     
1/14/04 7:01:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>I have a TD1232 with  salesmen,er,salespeople, in a ring group and one sales  person 
>complained theat the 
"other" salespeoples phone rings and then his rings..and believe me, they junp on a 
ringing phone 'cause this is a  
Porsche dealer...
>
>If there are 8 sales people, and I put them on the same card of continous extensions, 
>they will all ring at the 
same time?
>
>Rudy
>
>
>"Dave Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>I've worked on at least 50 different systems. I don't recall any,
>>besides Pana, that have the staggered ring. What systems do you know of
>>that have a staggered ring? Maybe there are some that I don't recall.
>>
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>>Subject: Re: KX-T: KX-TA 624 extension ring problem
>>
>>Dave:
>>
>>Sorry, but all larger systems do this.  The demand for ringing power is
>>to 
>>all phones at once would create a need for a very large power supply,
>>hence the 
>>ringing is staggered.  All Panasonic systems do this except for the
>>KX-TD308.  
>>Most other manufacturers do this also.  It kept the cost of the systems
>>down. 
>> Typically eight phones are rung and then the next eight.  You may have
>>to 
>>re-arrange some stations if they are on different cards and near each
>>other.  
>>Try grouping the phones in a specific area to ring together if that is
>>an issue, 
>>while phones that are farther away can be the higher numbered
>>extensions.
>>
>>Steve L. Martin
>>Surf Side Sound, Inc.
>>
>>
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