Hi Steve,
Thanks .....I've learned more than I ever wanted to about CID tonight!!!! Actually 
it's 1200 baud data and leaves the CO at -13.5 DB across 900 ohms. My Dynatel can 
measure the level and perform several other CID tests, but no one seems to be able to 
come up with an acceptable minimum level I can expect at the far end, ie: the 
customer's premises. I think they shoot for a maximum loss of around 6 DB in the 
speech ckt, and since the CID is in band FSK, I can probably expect the same amount of 
loss...around -20 for a level at the far end. Sure wish I had more concrete numbers to 
go back to them with........
Thanks again..
Best, Jim
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  Jim:

  As best as I can tell you is CID 300bps of data after the first ring.   The max 
level will be 0dBm from the CO, but you'll need to check your line loss. That may be 
an issue.

  Use a cheapo CID box or a Lil' Buddy Test set, they read CID and are fairly cheap, 
compared to TS-22A.  That will narrow down some problems, if you read it on those 
devices.  Verizon is terrible for caller ID here, I get OUT OF AREA often, and it can 
be a local call, sometimes I get the number with OOA, other times I get LD with the 
State the call originated from.  So you tell me.  It's an imperfect science here.

  Good Luck

  Steve L. Martin
  Surf Side Sound, Inc. 


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