"Don't forget that, for all intents and purposes (even though it is a 
"continent") Australia and New Zealand are islands and don't have a 'native' 
source of petroleum. Almost all raw materials for manufactured goods are 
shipped in... kind of like Hawaii...

Different economic issues all around. Their form of governance is irrelevant.

Mark W (N952MW res.)."


Ok, its raining outside so I'll bite.


Where is this information sourced from?


New Zealand drills for crude in the Tasman off the coast of New Plymouth.  The 
coastline of Aus is littered with oil rigs.  Until the current junta shut down 
Marsden Point, New Zealand also refined its own crude and exported it.  Aus has 
a bunch of refineries on the east coast.  New Zealand produces natural gas as 
does Aus.  New Zealand produces its own electricity from hydro and geothermal 
plants.  I think Aus burns it coal and gas.


We can even make things like rockets when not weaving flax baskets and 
sharpening our spears.


Despite all of the above, the cost of living remains disproportionately high.  
As it does in Australia, America, Great Britain, Europe and Canada ... all of a 
sudden.  Go figure.


Kiwi





>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

On 9/30/2022 5:03 PM, MS wrote:
I paid $7+ a gallon (sold by liter) for car gas in Europe 20 years ago so 
whenever gas prices rise over here I just think of what it costs over there and 
am thankful I'm a U.S. citizen and can come home when money runs out.   
EVERYthing over there is inordinately expensive (compared to the U.S.).  They 
HAVE to have semi-socialist governments if their citizens are to survive.

As for Australia's $12/gal price and no semi-socialist government . . . plus 
the fact they have the highest prevalence of things that can kill a person than 
anywhere else I know of . . . I guess I'm glad I'm not over there as well.  
Aussies have to be tough . . . or they die.

Mike
KSEE



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