Please let me clarify. I was assuming his plane was a taildragger. That was the picture he had attached. I'd totally agree with your assessment if his plane is a tricycle geared plane. Then its flight characteristics are like the Grummans.
Point 1) what the "shortly coupled" piece does for tail dragers is to exhibit itself in landings being very twitchy Point 2)... When I made the statement of "rudder authority" that was made more around the fact regarding the ability or in-ablity to recover from a spin. Which would apply to both configurations of the KR2. For the J-3, it handles spins recovery very well. We use it to teach students to use the spin to get down fast. The Pitts and Kr's are challenged. More so the Kr's. The simple reason is that the elevators and Rudder are being blanked out. This really is addressed in most cases by the increasing of the surface area of these devices. In this case the rudder is most dominant. Just my two sense Dee Engineer, aerobatics (pitts and jets), exCFI and ex test pilot. On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:25 PM Mike Stirewalt via KRnet < [email protected]> wrote: > > "If you are getting your PPL, I'd strongly advise getting time in a J3 > cub > or aeronca champ or citabria." > > "The KR is shortly coupled flight characteristics in conjunction with > the > fact the rudder authority is limited." > > I may be misunderstanding things here and probably am since the > statements above are about as far from accurate as can be. The KR is > short coupled it's true, especially the original design, but I've never > ever ran out of rudder in even the strongest of crosswinds. > > As for the others, I've never flown a J3 I'm ashamed to say and my > Citabria time was brief and long ago but despite the years I think I can > safely say the feel and handling of a Citabria is really nothing like a > KR. Re the Champ . . . now that really is dangerously off the mark. I > made the mistake of doing my biennial time before last in a Champ > thinking it might be fun. Instead, as Riley used to say, "What a > revoltin' experience that turned out to be!" It was awful. The controls > are so unresponsive (compared to the 2 KR's I've owned) that trying to > perform simple maneuvers with any grace was a painful experience. All > three of those designs are getting close to a hundred years old and feel > nothing like a plane with the responsiveness of a KR. Old planes have > their charm for some people but using one in order to develop a feel for > a KR is, saying it as nicely as I can, inappropriate. > > Any of the Grummans would be far better choices, the best of those would > be the TR-2 but any of the 2 place models (they had different names and > varied slightly) would be closest. The original Yankee would be best of > all since it was more touchy than the others that followed. I think any > of the two-place RV's would also be good - Jeff can comment on that since > I'm just presuming . . . just going on what I've heard over the years. > RV owners love to extol the virtue of their control quickness. > > I can't think how flying any of those old war horses named above would > help anyone develop an expectation or feel for a KR. Using a car > analogy, it would be like using a 1948 Buick Roadmaster to help get a > feel for a Formula 1 car. Sorry if I've misunderstood something. > > Mike > KSEE > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Sponsored by > https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more > > A Response From Trump About New Book's Claim > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5f4eae20c7e652e20413ast03vuc1 > What Looks Like a Landslide May End Up Being a 'Mirage' > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5f4eae20e88ff2e20413ast03vuc2 > Suit: McDonald's 'Intentionally' Hurt Black Franchisees > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5f4eae21152452e20413ast03vuc3 > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected]
