Thanks Mike, On Marty and Steve’s KR’s I generally flew them upright with only inverted flying every now and then. Steve Alderman and I were reminiscing at Sun N Fun this year about the time I rolled his KR inverted and pushed negative to vertical to the tune of 4 g’s negative on his recording g meter. Of course I was younger and weight about 120 lbs less then as well. Steve’s airplane was super light and really fast. He could out run my Velocity at 12,000 feet. I am a little more sane these days and prefer to just do positive maneuvers. Thanks again for the advice.
Victor > On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:00, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: > > Send KRnet mailing list submissions to > krnet@list.krnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: cross wind limit (Mark Jones) > 2. Re: Who went ? (larry howell) > 3. Re: Who went ? (Randall Smith) > 4. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Mike Sylvester) > 5. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Flesner) > 6. Fuel pumps (laser...@juno.com) > 7. cross wind limit (laser...@juno.com) > 8. Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 (victor taylor) > 9. Thank you, KR people. (Daniel Branstrom) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:45:45 -0400 > From: Mark Jones <flyk...@gmail.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> cross wind limit > Message-ID: <1aa07aa5-a04f-42b5-afea-76cf945de...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > With experience and in a 2S nose dragger, a 25 mph crosswind at 45 degrees > was a piece of cake for me. When I arrived at the 2012 KR Gathering I made > my shortest landing ever in N886MJ. The weather was not good that day as a > matter of fact I landed 30 miles northwest of Mt Vernon because I had to wait > for weather to lift some over MVN. Anyway when I did decide to go in, MVN had > 20+ gusting. I chose runway 33 and made the very first turn off and if you > look at an airport diagram that is a very short distance. There was never a > time in the 552 hours I flew N886MJ that the winds kept me from departing or > arriving an airport. > > Mark Jones > Oldsmar, Fl > > N771MJ ?WunderBird? > www.flykr2s.com > flyk...@gmail.com > > > >> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:24 AM, jeb via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >> >> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >> >> I've got nose wheel, Matco. The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >> direct cross wind >> >> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it straight. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:13:28 -0500 > From: larry howell <lah...@yahoo.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Who went ? > Message-ID: <b7abe9e3-ca5b-4a95-a108-eda2f3efc...@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Larry H > >> On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> wrote: >> >> I was there last year and was very disappointed in the number of homebuilts. >> Since I didn't make SNF I am going to try very hard to get to Oshkosh. I >> hope the weather is better than last year. >> >> Mike Sylvester >> kr2s builder >> Birmingham,AL. >> >> There was somewhat of a protest going on at Sun n Fun by homebuilders after >> the tornado flipped some airplanes a few short years ago. The word I >> received, some poor guys plane (a biplane I think)was thrown upside down, 8 >> gallons of fuel leaked out, EPA or some lunatic agency was fining the guy >> thousands of dollars. The Sun n Fun operators were not backing the poor guy >> and left him exposed and on his own, so many declined to show back up in >> protest. Since I don't attend there now I had no idea if very many followed >> through with their protest. I have no idea if that situation was remedied >> by the Sun n Fun operators or if the guy was just left hung out to dry! >> Larry H > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:25:10 -0500 > From: Randall Smith <crz...@yahoo.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Who went ? > Message-ID: <2f2b240e-f482-444c-a215-181063aac...@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I quit going to Sun and fun when the state of Florida decided to run > registrations anything that had been flying within the first six months they > send a tax bill to at 6% I?m not sure how many people paid that. they > eventually change the law to exclude temporary flight into Florida like they > have for those visiting with motorhomes. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 29, 2019, at 3:13 PM, larry howell via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Larry H >> >>> On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I was there last year and was very disappointed in the number of >>> homebuilts. Since I didn't make SNF I am going to try very hard to get to >>> Oshkosh. I hope the weather is better than last year. >>> >>> Mike Sylvester >>> kr2s builder >>> Birmingham,AL. >>> >>> There was somewhat of a protest going on at Sun n Fun by homebuilders after >>> the tornado flipped some airplanes a few short years ago. The word I >>> received, some poor guys plane (a biplane I think)was thrown upside down, 8 >>> gallons of fuel leaked out, EPA or some lunatic agency was fining the guy >>> thousands of dollars. The Sun n Fun operators were not backing the poor guy >>> and left him exposed and on his own, so many declined to show back up in >>> protest. Since I don't attend there now I had no idea if very many followed >>> through with their protest. I have no idea if that situation was remedied >>> by the Sun n Fun operators or if the guy was just left hung out to dry! >>> Larry H >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 23:34:57 +0000 > From: Mike Sylvester <shagste...@hotmail.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > Message-ID: > > <cy4pr05mb36072a85f30998c3c68fe246c4...@cy4pr05mb3607.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Vic, I gravity feed fuel from my header tank to the carb on my O-200 powered > KR. My header tank is sitting on the bottom shelf that is behind the > firewall. I can run it totally dry with the M/S carburetor with no problems. > That being said, other than some high speed passes with steep climbs I'm > pretty much a calm and coordinated flyer. One recommendation, Make sure your > vent line doesn't trap fuel. Even gravity doesn't work if the vent becomes > blocked. In the test phase I lost power twice and had to dead stick it in. I > was lost for an answer until I talked to Jeff Scott, he is very knowledgeable > man. > > Mike Sylvester > kr2s builder > Birmingham,AL. > > Cell no.205-966-3854 > > ________________________________ > From: KRnet <krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org> on behalf of victor taylor via > KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:56 PM > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Cc: victor taylor > Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > > Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? > Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 19:01:31 -0500 > From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > Message-ID: <31138ddb-dc13-0bdb-43b8-b87a4ebf7...@frontier.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 4/29/2019 6:34 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet wrote: >> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I don't have a header tank at all and run 2 electric fuel pumps. > However, here are some things to keep in mind.? I'm assuming you're > running a Marvel Schebler carb.? If you end up installing a pump make > sure to do the gravity fuel flow test with the pump installed and turned > off.? If you do install a pump, make sure it is the very low pressure > type, 3 to 5 pounds.? If you have a concern on pump pressure install a > fuel pressure regulator and set to 3 1/2 to 4 pounds.? I think the carb > has a limit of around 5 1/2 pounds without modification.? I have my > pressure regulator set to 3 1/2 pounds. > > You're looking for 150% of fuel burn at full power in the worst case > situation, low fuel, nose high.? The 0-200 manual claims about 8 gph at > 2750 rpm so shoot for 12 gph fuel flow in the test.? Test for six > minutes and multiply by 10 to make it easy. If you can't get that with > gravity it may require it be mandatory to run pump on t.o. and landing > and other unusual attitudes.? Some simple test with tell you what's > required. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:49:32 -0700 > From: <laser...@juno.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Fuel pumps > Message-ID: <aabqnrg9xa4zr...@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > >> "In that flow test, you want to run the fuel through the carb and > measure the flow rate coming out the drain plug of the carb." > > Wouldn't one want a pressure regulator somewhere between the fuel pump > and the carb? Maybe the carbs you're referring to have one built in to > them, such as a float valve. If the float ever degrades however, a > pressure regulator might be a good thing to have. My Ellison requires an > external regulator ahead of the carb inlet. > > Re fuel pumps, I've got a Facet for transferring fuel from wing tank to > header like Jeff is mentioning, and I've got two fuel pumps (primary and > a back-up on separate switch) between the header and my top mounted > Ellison. They're the round ones that look like fuel filters. In all > these years none of these pumps have ever failed. > > I turned my pump off one day in level cruise with fuel tank level well > below the level of the Ellison. The engine continued to run just fine > using siphon effect. I didn't test it with a climb or descent. It's > good to know the engine will continue to run without the pump but it's > always on anyway. > > An electric fuel pump is not something I would leave out of the fuel > system . . . why would you consider it? To avoid having to use a > pressure regulator? Not criticising, just wondering. I don't know > enough about your carb and fuel system to say anything helpful. > > Mike > KSEE > > ____________________________________________________________ > Drink 1 Cup Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy > mayserve-magestor.com > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5cc79bf6102531bf57114st04vuc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:34:49 -0700 > From: <laser...@juno.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> cross wind limit > Message-ID: <aabqnrkvbavhd...@smtpout03.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Something that can be even more of a concern than directional control is > having a gust lift you off the runway before the plane is ready to fly. > I'm not sure why my rudder would be any different than anyone else's, but > it's always been sufficient to counter any wind no matter how strong. > Therefore I don't have an arbitrarily set crosswind limit. Perhaps Ken > Cottle built the rudder a little larger than what the plans call for . . > . but it looks like a normal KR vertical stabilizer & rudder (I think). > Knowing this and being overconfident and careless, on takeoff I let a > gust lift me up before the plane was ready to fly. If there had been any > obstructions alongside the runway, trees, buildings, vehicles, etc. I > would have hit them. As it was, I hung in ground effect (barely) > desperately playing with the mixture to squeeze a few more RPM's to > gradually build enough speed to climb out of the situation. Pure luck > that I didn't lose the plane. > . > This happened in strong, gusty winds on takeoff at Raton, NM. Heavy with > full fuel (22 gallons) and the weight of all my travelling paraphanelia, > I was careless and let a gust lift me up and blow me off to the side. It > happened in an instant. It was pure luck that allowed me to crawl along > just above the rough scrub passing so closely below. Close call I've > never forgotten. Usually it's landing that gets our attention, not so > much the takeoff. I was careless and didn't forcefully hold it on the > runway while building takeoff speed. Winds on the front range can wipe a > plane out easily and quickly so that takeoff was a really good lesson. > It's easy to forget just how light our KR's are and what low wing loading > they have. Mine is 13.5 at full gross, normal for KR's I think. > > On the other hand, a KR with the retractable gear definitely can't handle > really strong crosswinds without hitting a wingtip. > > Mike > KSEE > > ____________________________________________________________ > Drink 1 Cup Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy > mayserve-magestor.com > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5cc7a661bfcbf266129acst03vuc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 01:51:08 -0400 > From: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 > Message-ID: <fafea3cd-f931-4a3d-a313-7078f51ac...@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks for the info guys. I?ll install a fuel pump. > > Victor > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 29, 2019, at 12:00, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: >> >> Send KRnet mailing list submissions to >> krnet@list.krnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) >> 2. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Robert Sauer) >> 3. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) >> 4. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) >> 5. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Phillip Matheson) >> 6. Fuel pump O-200 (victor taylor) >> 7. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Brant Hollensbe) >> 8. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Randall Smith) >> 9. cross wind limit (jeb) >> 10. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Jeff Scott) >> 11. Re: cross wind limit (Jeff Scott) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:45:28 -0500 >> From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >> Message-ID: <0edf3560-ae2a-5d5a-01a6-50bd93622...@n56ml.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >> >> Thanks.... >> >> Mark Langford >> m...@n56ml.com >> http://www.n56ml.com >> -------------------------------- >>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>> www.N56ML.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 10:27:06 -0700 >> From: Robert Sauer <rob81...@gmail.com> >> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >> Message-ID: >> <canuxmcsttefnc0pqc_czwjnkzfbemjtg-jzx6s8iuzahmfm...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >> along with his to you...... Bob >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >> >>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>> >>> Thanks.... >>> >>> Mark Langford >>> m...@n56ml.com >>> http://www.n56ml.com >>> -------------------------------- >>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>> www.N56ML.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:57:33 -0500 >> From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> >> To: Robert Sauer via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >> Message-ID: <c3b77a19-ce86-7701-20fc-540e1f630...@n56ml.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Bob, >> >> John did send it to me, but maybe I missed it. I'll add it in the next >> few days if it's missing. >> >> Thanks.... >> >> Mark Langford >> m...@n56ml.com >> http://www.n56ml.com >> >> >>> On 4/28/2019 12:27 PM, Robert Sauer via KRnet wrote: >>> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >>> along with his to you...... Bob >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >>> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>>> >>>> Thanks.... >>>> >>>> Mark Langford >>>> m...@n56ml.com >>>> http://www.n56ml.com >>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>>> www.N56ML.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:00:57 -0500 >> From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> >> To: Robert Sauer via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >> Message-ID: <7f537abf-6c55-cecb-6eb7-c71ebf2b4...@n56ml.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> I checked, and it's in there. Have you looked at the latest version, >> posted this morning? If you don't see it, may you need to clear your >> browser cache and try again. >> >> Mark Langford >> m...@n56ml.com >> http://www.n56ml.com >> >> >>> On 4/28/2019 12:27 PM, Robert Sauer via KRnet wrote: >>> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >>> along with his to you...... Bob >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >>> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>>> >>>> Thanks.... >>>> >>>> Mark Langford >>>> m...@n56ml.com >>>> http://www.n56ml.com >>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>>> www.N56ML.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:50:17 +1000 >> From: Phillip Matheson <phillipmathe...@bigpond.com> >> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >> Message-ID: <f5246019-b39d-4c0c-9ab0-9b759a96b...@bigpond.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Mark. I would like to personally thank you for your fantastic effort , time >> , information and support you have supplied to us all over the many years of >> the krnet. >> I hope to buy you a drink or two at Oshkosh. You you there. >> Many thanks >> Phil Matheson >> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ >> >> Sent from my >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:56:48 -0500 >> From: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> >> To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> Message-ID: <ce5b8690-fa7f-4292-b06d-2007c9f65...@yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:43:10 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Brant Hollensbe <bhollen...@mchsi.com> >> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> Message-ID: >> <1056155141.395320970.1556509390851.javamail.zim...@mchsi.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> In a step climb, your header tank is going to be lower and your engine >> higher than in level flight. Is you carb going to be supplied with enough >> fuel in that attitude?That all depends on the location of your carb and your >> header tank. A simple mock up will tell you how high the tank will be above >> the carb in a steep climb condition. >> Brant HollensbeKDSM >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: victor taylor via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Cc: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:56:48 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> >> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:42:45 -0500 >> From: Randall Smith <crz...@yahoo.com> >> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> Message-ID: <a356de0e-3c7a-42ed-a1c7-6390d5a79...@yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I put an 0200 in my KR and I had to run A fuel pump. Climbing out the >> engine would starve. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 28, 2019, at 10:43 PM, Brant Hollensbe via KRnet >>> <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> In a step climb, your header tank is going to be lower and your engine >>> higher than in level flight. Is you carb going to be supplied with enough >>> fuel in that attitude?That all depends on the location of your carb and >>> your header tank. A simple mock up will tell you how high the tank will be >>> above the carb in a steep climb condition. >>> Brant HollensbeKDSM >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: victor taylor via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >>> Cc: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:56:48 -0400 (EDT) >>> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> >>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:24:44 -0600 >> From: jeb <n12...@cybermesa.com> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Subject: KR> cross wind limit >> Message-ID: <91e616d7-2faf-5c2e-5528-ed71d2dc6...@cybermesa.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >> >> I've got nose wheel, Matco.? The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >> direct cross wind >> >> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it >> straight. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:04:59 +0200 >> From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pla...@gmx.com> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> Message-ID: >> >> <trinity-4ec1c38c-ea96-4ab6-93fe-45f46ee8aa20-1556546699261@3c-app-mailcom-bs08> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> I have a 9-1/2 gallon header tank, then transfer fuel from the wings to the >> header periodically in flight. I have run the header down to nearly empty, >> and flow tested it at high angles of attack. I've never had a flow problem >> in over 1200 hours. But, whether you need a pump or not is really going to >> depend on how low the bottom of you header tank might be. The real answer >> will be in a properly executed flow test at high angles of incidence. In >> that flow test, you want to run the fuel through the carb and measure the >> flow rate coming out the drain plug of the carb. >> >> -Jeff Scott >> North Arkansas >> >> --------------------- >> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 9:56 PM >>> From: "victor taylor via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >>> To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >>> Cc: "victor taylor" <velocityo...@yahoo.com> >>> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> >>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:13:46 +0200 >> From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pla...@gmx.com> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Subject: Re: KR> cross wind limit >> Message-ID: >> >> <trinity-99ee50b9-45d5-4437-92a1-6bad8b657494-1556547226678@3c-app-mailcom-bs08> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> When I was based at your airport, I limited myself to 15 kts crosswind >> component overall. On take off, more than 10 kts from the left was >> challenging as you had to keep bumping the right brake intermittently to >> keep the plane headed down the runway. Around 40-45 kts, the rudder >> authority becomes enough that you won't need the brakes. For crosswinds from >> the right, you can add 5 kts more crosswind component as the plane naturally >> yaws to the left under acceleration. For a Corvair or VW powered plane with >> the prop turning the other direction, reverse the direction for these >> recommendations. For taxi testing and until you become comfortable with the >> plane, I would recommend keeping the crosswind component down to 10 kts. >> That will be challenging enough. >> >> -Jeff Scott >> North Arkansas >> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 at 8:24 AM >>> From: "jeb via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >>> Cc: jeb <n12...@cybermesa.com> >>> Subject: KR> cross wind limit >>> >>> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >>> >>> I've got nose wheel, Matco.? The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >>> direct cross wind >>> >>> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it >>> straight. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >> KRnet mailing list >> KRnet@list.krnet.org >> http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 >> ************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 01:06:59 -0700 > From: Daniel Branstrom <4dan.branst...@gmail.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Thank you, KR people. > Message-ID: <805e4900-49d2-eb79-69f7-405921c52...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I want to specifically thank John Bouyer, Joe Beyer, and Pete Gauthier > for their generosity in showing me their KR projects and engines this > week while I've been visiting Portland, Oregon. I'm not a KR builder, > nor am I anticipating building one, but the ingenuity and work of the KR > crowd is always informative, enlightening, and friendly. I attended the > gathering at Chino several years ago, and it's always fun to meet and > hang out with members of the KR community. > > Since the KR is a plans-built aircraft, there are many ingenious ways in > which builders have put them together and come up with individual > solutions to individual needs. I'm impressed every time that I look at a > different plane. KRs are definitely not cookie-cutter aircraft. > > Dan Branstrom > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > KRnet mailing list > KRnet@list.krnet.org > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 103 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
