Hi all,

Interesting list from one of the newsletters:

6051bs, 2100 Revmaster, 145 IAS cruise
572 lbs, 1834 VW, 52.45 prop
Empty 463 lbs, Gross 793 lbs, 1700cc, 140 mph
455 lbs, 1800 VW, 135 mph cruise at 3200 rpm
Vmax man 135 mph IAS
575 lbs empty, Revmaster 21 OOD,
580 lbs empty, Revmaster 2100, 160 mph at 3500 rpm
Revmaster 2100, 558 lbs empty, 140 mph true cruise
628 lbs, 165 mph max., Hapi 60-2, cruise 140 mph
625 lbs, 1835 VW, 124 mph indicated at 8,000'
628 lbs, 1835 Hapi, 180 mph true
502 lbs empty, 1834 V W, 1 55 mph cruise
560 lbs, 145 mph at 2900 rpm, gross 960
639 lbs empty, 140 mph, Hapi 60-2
2180 cc VW, 155 Cruise, 404 lbs
1835 VW, 562 lbs, Cruise 155 mph at 3100 rpm
1835 VW, 160 mph cruise, 635 lbs
2180 VW Great Planes, 575 lbs
550 lbs, VW 1835,
Empty 524 lb, 160 mph at 3400 rpm, rate of climb 1100 fpm
540 lbs, 170 mph with 2 up, Hapi 1835cc VW,
530 lbs, 1835 VW, Cruise 140 mph, max 150 mph, 48 in pitch
1835 VW, 150 mph
670 lb empty, Hapi 2180, 3100 rpm 150 IAS
3000 rpm gives 150 mph
630 lbs, 21 80 VW, 192 mph on race circuit
600 lb empty, 183 5 VW, 54 x 44 prop, 145 mph ma>
688 lbs, 2100 VW, 80 HP, 129 kt cruize
634 lbs, 2100 cc VW, 3,000 RPM 125 mph, 52 x 50 prop
555 lb, 1835 cc VW, 54 x 57 prop, 3200 rpm 160 mph
1835 V W, 5501bs, 3200 RPM -> 150

Henni
South Africa

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Subject: Re: KR> Light KR2s

I know that mine weighs 480# and the other 245# is part of the useful load 
because it won't fly without it which makes it pretty dang useful. My second 2s 
that I am working on I am trying desperately to bring in under 700#. I stll 
think that I can do it. Glass panel is one place I see significant weight loss.
Joe Horton,
n357cj

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I think there's more to an airplane than simply light weight.  Like many things 
in the design world, there are usually more important aspects than light 
weight.  Safety, usefulness, and maintainability come to mind.  For example, if 
I remember correctly, I read that Ken Rand used the top of  a milk jug for a 
fuel tank filler, along with its plastic cap.  Milk jugs are not famous for 
their longevity when exposed to sunlight (or even the atmosphere), and I would  
rather not trust my life to the structural integrity to a milk jug.

I would also be skeptical about claims of exactly meeting Ken's 480 pounds.  
Some people build by the plans and then think their CG is perfect because the 
followed the plans, and don't even bother to check it.  There are probably at 
least two out there that think their planes weigh 480 pounds too!

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL

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