I know that mine weighs 480# and the other 245# is part of the useful load 
because it won't fly without it which makes it pretty dang useful. My second 2s 
that I am working on I am trying desperately to bring in under 700#. I stll 
think that I can do it. Glass panel is one place I see significant weight loss.
Joe Horton,
n357cj

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I think there's more to an airplane than simply light weight.  Like many
things in the design world, there are usually more important aspects
than light weight.  Safety, usefulness, and maintainability come to
mind.  For example, if I remember correctly, I read that Ken Rand used
the top of  a milk jug for a fuel tank filler, along with its plastic
cap.  Milk jugs are not famous for their longevity when exposed to
sunlight (or even the atmosphere), and I would  rather not trust my life
to the structural integrity to a milk jug.

I would also be skeptical about claims of exactly meeting Ken's 480
pounds.  Some people build by the plans and then think their CG is
perfect because the followed the plans, and don't even bother to check
it.  There are probably at least two out there that think their planes
weigh 480 pounds too!

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL

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