I was a full time insurance adjuster and still do it occasionally so I can spread a little light on this. All aircraft hull policies are "agreed on value" policies. You're premiums are based on value divided by risk. The underwriter has the option to repair or replace any damage. If you under insure your aircraft to say $10,000 and make a claim for a prop strike they can pay policy limits and take salvage rights. If they pay for it they own it in other words. If you were to over insure your aircraft to say $40,000 they would repair you prop with some of they money you had paid them in premiums. This process makes the agreed value slightly higher than the fair market value in most cases. You must understand the policy though if you insure an aircraft. The policy is also a "conditional" policy. That means that in order for them to pay the insured (you or your family in this case) must do certain things as your part to collect any claim. You must of course be 100% legal. Your aircraft m ust be legal and your activity must be legal. If you didn't log you tail dragger proficiency and had a mid air collision your family cannot collect even though the cause wasn't because you hadn't remembered to log those takeoff and landings to a full stop. If you ever make a claim no matter how small it is you are going to have to prove that you were 100% legal to collect. If you are always 100% legal then the risk of you having an accident are fairly low. Are you always more than 2,000 feet from any persons or property on the ground? Were you at an altitude that you could make a safe landing in the event of a loss of power? If you crashed because of a loss of power apparently you were not. If your engine quit when was the last compression check and oil change? If it were properly maintained then why did it fail? If you ground looped were you properly trained and were you proficient and can you prove it? So if you have a policy make sure to cross the t's and dot the i's. Make sure your family is aware of where your log books are in case you are no longer with us. If I have given you the impression that the insurance companies will cheat you I'm sorry because that isn't correct. They will pay if you have had an accident while you and your aircraft were 100% legal as well as your activity at the time of the accident. If you have followed all ten thousand regulations you are very unlikely to have an accident in the first place. Did you actually do a weight and balance before the flight and if so where is it? Did you give that passenger briefing? Did you check the weather and how can you prove it. I carry liability only because I know how I am. I can't tell you the last time I did a weight and balance on my airplane even though I know under certain conditions I am within the CG range. Just because I'm safe doesn't mean that I'm legal and if I'm legal have I fully met the policy conditions?
Victor Taylor Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: > > Send KRnet mailing list submissions to > krnet@list.krnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Test (Lee Van Dyke) > 2. Sterba prop (Flesner) > 3. Re: Insurance for a KR-2 (rdracer53) > 4. Re: Sterba prop (brian.kr...@eamanufacturing.com) > 5. Re: Sterba prop (Jeff Scott) > 6. Re: Sterba prop (Larry Flesner) > 7. Re: Bolts engine mount (Stef den Boer) > 8. Re: Insurance for a KR-2 (Larry Flesner) > 9. Re: Insurance for a KR-2 (Larry Flesner) > 10. 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Re: Don Chisholm (pi...@mymts.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:03:44 -0700 > From: Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke2.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: KR> Test > Message-ID: <7386877e-9043-4728-8ec8-b4340cb03...@vandyke2.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sorry > > Lee Van Dyke > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 12:43:55 -0600 > From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Sterba prop > Message-ID: > <20170208184410.3c48a175...@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > > I enquired about my Sterba prop and Ed came back with the following > info. This is for all Sterba prop owners and wood props in > general. Non Steba owners check with your manufacturer. > > correspondence below; > > Larry Flesner > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ed,, > > I have one of your props on my 0-200 powered KR2. It is 15 ? years = > old and has 600 flight hours accumulated and is in need of a bit of TLC. > What should I use to refinish the prop, very light sanding and = > re-coat, with what? You coated the back side with black = > paint. Special paint or rattle can, flat black? > Any advise appreciated. > Thanks........ > > Larry Flesner > > ======================================= > > You can use MinWax brand Helmsman series Gloss varnish available at Ace, Tru= > e Value, etc and a 2" gray foam brush with the wood handle to apply the fini= > sh. The Gloss has the UV inhibitors. A new prop comes with 5 coats of fini= > sh so use as many coats as is necessary. The black paint can be hardware st= > ore flat or semigloss black. Glad it's still going for you, I get them back= > once and a while with 25 years or more of service. > Ed > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:52:35 -0800 > From: rdracer53 <rdrace...@aol.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: <82yecxt842n05i4bllxit434.1486579955...@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Keep shopping around. I have insured mine with 3 different underwriters over > the years, for $17000 hull value, and paid between $900 & $1400 a year total > for hull and liability.?My insurance agent told me once I hit 100 hours in it > the rates would go down substantially, but I tore the motor down a few years > ago before reaching the 100 hour markers, so I don't know yet how much of a > break I will get.I hope to find out this spring. > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message --------From: Dan via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Date: 2/7/17 7:18 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'KRnet' <krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: Dan > <dlla...@comcast.net> Subject: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > I was/am looking to buy or eventually build a KR-2S so I called for an > insurance quote. The quote at just over $2000 was double the rate of my > current experimental tail dragger. My current insurer's quote came in at more > than triple what I am paying them now. Quotes are with the same hull value > that I currently have. I expected it to be a little higher but this seems > excessive. If I go this route I may have to go without insurance for a while > but my wife is not excited about that. > > This may change my plans but has me wondering if there are a lot of KR-2 > accidents or are there a lot of KR-2's that are simply not insured? > > Thanks, > Dan LaFon > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 12:59:59 -0700 > From: <brian.kr...@eamanufacturing.com> > To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Sterba prop > Message-ID: > > <20170208125959.31a5f8c871d0e3389177406b4aec562c.b66b966bc7....@email04.godaddy.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have refinished several of his props the exact way after asking him > years ago. It is very easy and works good. One issue I have though > with the Helmsman varnish is that you really need to keep your prop > covered if you keep your plane out in the sun. I had one on my Midget > Mustang and the varnish was deteriorated after less than a year. I have > wondered what Sensenich and other prop makers use for varnish since > other planes sit out much longer before having issues. > > Brian Kraut > 904-536-1780 > br...@eamanuacturing.com > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: KR> Sterba prop > From: Flesner via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Date: Wed, February 08, 2017 11:43 am > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Cc: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > > > > I enquired about my Sterba prop and Ed came back with the following > info. This is for all Sterba prop owners and wood props in > general. Non Steba owners check with your manufacturer. > > correspondence below; > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 21:56:51 +0100 > From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pla...@gmx.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Sterba prop > Message-ID: > > <trinity-f57a0a05-77bc-4987-9347-93556374ba8a-1486587411631@3capp-mailcom-bs04> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The old wooden Sensinich props were typically lightly sanded and varnished > with a decent spar varnish as needed. If they were kept inside, the finish > lasted for decades. If they sat out in the weather, they typically needed to > be touched up annually. > > Other props like Peformance Props and Warnke used Durathane polyurethane > finish which is really tough and lasts nearly forever. > > -Jeff Scott > Los Alamos, NM > > > Subject:?Re: KR> Sterba prop > I have refinished several of his props the exact way after asking him > years ago. It is very easy and works good. One issue I have though > with the Helmsman varnish is that you really need to keep your prop > covered if you keep your plane out in the sun. I had one on my Midget > Mustang and the varnish was deteriorated after less than a year. I have > wondered what Sensenich and other prop makers use for varnish since > other planes sit out much longer before having issues. > > Brian Kraut > 904-536-1780 > br...@eamanuacturing.com > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > > I enquired about my Sterba prop and Ed came back with the following > info. This is for all Sterba prop owners and wood props in > general. Non Steba owners check with your manufacturer. > > correspondence below; > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:56:55 -0600 > From: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Sterba prop > Message-ID: > <20170208225708.4988d175...@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 02:56 PM 2/8/2017, you wrote: >> The old wooden Sensinich props were typically lightly sanded and >> varnished with a decent spar varnish as needed. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The TruValue I stopped at didn't have the "varnish" in the brand > recommended and said he can hardly get it anymore. > I went with the polyurethane of the same brand and applied my first > coat this afternoon. I did a light sanding with 220 grit > to remove all the bug squash and most of the black paint on the back > side and applied 1 coat to the entire prop. I have it hanging > by the center hole and it appears to be very slightly out of > balance. Maybe an extra coat or two on the light side will help the balance. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:16:36 +0100 (CET) > From: Stef den Boer <stefk...@ziggo.nl> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Bolts engine mount > Message-ID: > > <89816002.4400018.1486595796151.javamail.open-xcha...@oxbe9.tb.mail.iss.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi mark, > I have checked it by the Dutch cherry bx2 bmw owners. They used M8 8.8 bolts. > I > realy dont like the metric bolts but it is the most easyest way. > I have to tink about it. If I will go for the AN Bolts I will do a > calculation. > Thanks for your comments. > Ps.. I finished the engine cowlings in carbon. the are 4.1 kg ( without > attachments And paint) > Stef > > >> Op 8 februari 2017 om 0:58 schreef Mark Langford via KRnet >> <krnet@list.krnet.org>: >> >> >> You really need to find the spec for the particular NAS and AN bolts you >> "need" to use, but AS&S calls their AN bolts 120ksi, while at least one >> spec I found online gave a range of 160-180ksi for the NAS6203-NAS6210. >> Specs for government fasteners and many other things used to be free on >> the web, but they've "been privatized", and now you have to pay big >> bucks for the simple "updated" spec, which is often merely renamed >> ("superceded"), but a new number for which you will pay dearly for the >> specs. Brilliant move... >> >> Mark Langford >> m...@n56ml.com >> http://www.n56ml.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see > http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:00:58 -0600 > From: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: > <20170209000109.01439179...@filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 12:52 PM 2/8/2017, you wrote: >> Keep shopping around. I have insured mine with 3 different >> underwriters over the years, for $17000 hull value, and paid between >> $900 & $1400 a year total for hull and liability. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ask your underwriter what they will pay if the aircraft is > "totaled". I read years ago that they pay based on aircraft value, > not on the insured amount. Given that, I don't recall ever seeing a > KR sell for $17,000, even the very nice ones with 0-200 engines. A > nice KR with a VW engine, if you can find a buyer, is probably in the > $10,000 to $12,000 range. You may be over insuring and paying more > than necessary. I insure for liability only for $325 per year, given > my commercial license, 1500+ total time, and 600+ tail wheel time. > > Given my age, 72, and the 13 years I took to build my KR, if I total > mine I could have another one flying by age 85. :-) Live to you > comfort level.......... > > Larry Flesner > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:13:25 -0600 > From: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: > <20170209001335.08e1179...@filter01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 09:18 AM 2/7/2017, you wrote: >> This may change my plans but has me wondering if there are a lot of >> KR-2 accidents or are there a lot of KR-2's that are simply not insured? > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The KR does not have a good reputation in the insurance industry, > primarily because most KR's use converted auto engines that they perceive > to have poor reliability. Rates are based on claims and pay outs for > a particular model or class, like tail wheel, tri-gear, retracts, > engines used, etc. > > For those wanting "motion hull" you might consider taking part of the > risk yourself and only insure for material cost to rebuild, if that's > possible. > > Also, I agree with someone that mentioned Sky Smith out of > Iowa. Big EAA supporter and great staff to work with. I've been > with them since 1998. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:46:19 -0600 > From: Paul Visk <ppaul...@aol.com> > To: KR EMAIL BOARD <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: <o3sp3iyufsa6xjq0rgss27fr.1486600854...@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Larry wrote: ? > The KR does not have a good reputation in the insurance industry, > primarily because most KR's use converted auto engines that they perceive > to have poor reliability. > > If you convert a Corvair engine per FlyCorvair. " William Wynne" You will get > ?favorable rates from Falcon insurance.? > > > Paul Visk?Belleville Il. > 618-406-4705 > -------- Original message --------From: Larry Flesner via KRnet > <krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 2/8/17 6:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet > <krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> Subject: Re: > KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > At 09:18 AM 2/7/2017, you wrote: >> This may change my plans but has me wondering if there are a lot of >> KR-2 accidents or are there a lot of KR-2's that are simply not insured? > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The KR does not have a good reputation in the insurance industry, > primarily because most KR's use converted auto engines that they perceive > to have poor reliability. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:09:45 -0700 > From: "Roger Bulla" <rbul...@wic.net> > To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: <1608B20833D94A3EB30E33A7DB99C3BA@DESKTOPRVT6VMJ> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Thought I would chime in of the insurance. > > I purchase liability only insurance for my VW powered tail wheel Kr for > 295.00 per year through Aviation and Marine Insurance Services. I'm not sure > if these rates are good or not, it is just what I came up with. I did have > well over 900 hours of KR time when I purchased the policy. > > Roger Bulla > rbul...@wic.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Visk via KRnet > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:46 PM > To: KR EMAIL BOARD > Cc: Paul Visk > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > > Larry wrote: > The KR does not have a good reputation in the insurance industry, > primarily because most KR's use converted auto engines that they perceive > to have poor reliability. > > Paul Visk Belleville Il. > 618-406-4705 > -------- Original message --------From: Larry Flesner via KRnet > <krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 2/8/17 6:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet > <krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> Subject: Re: > KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > At 09:18 AM 2/7/2017, you wrote: >> This may change my plans but has me wondering if there are a lot of >> KR-2 accidents or are there a lot of KR-2's that are simply not insured? > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The KR does not have a good reputation in the insurance industry, > primarily because most KR's use converted auto engines that they perceive > to have poor reliability. > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 01:39:37 +0000 (UTC) > From: Marc Baca <mbf...@yahoo.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: <1450349484.981342.1486604377...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I believe that I pay just above $400 for liabililty insurance with 740 > something hours of flight and approximately 35 hours in tail wheel (Cub). > Marc BacaN13UG ? Larry Buck- ?KR-2Chino, CA ? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:42:04 -0600 > From: "Dan" <dlla...@comcast.net> > To: "'KRnet'" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: <003101d28275$b85b6e70$29124b50$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I believe my policies are agreed value just like I have on our boat but now > that you bring it up I should give them a call and verify. > > Thanks, > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Flesner > via KRnet > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 6:01 PM > To: KRnet > Cc: Larry Flesner > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > > At 12:52 PM 2/8/2017, you wrote: >> Keep shopping around. I have insured mine with 3 different underwriters >> over the years, for $17000 hull value, and paid between >> $900 & $1400 a year total for hull and liability. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ask your underwriter what they will pay if the aircraft is > "totaled". I read years ago that they pay based on aircraft value, > not on the insured amount. Given that, I don't recall ever seeing a > KR sell for $17,000, even the very nice ones with 0-200 engines. A > nice KR with a VW engine, if you can find a buyer, is probably in the > $10,000 to $12,000 range. You may be over insuring and paying more > than necessary. I insure for liability only for $325 per year, given > my commercial license, 1500+ total time, and 600+ tail wheel time. > > Given my age, 72, and the 13 years I took to build my KR, if I total > mine I could have another one flying by age 85. :-) Live to you > comfort level.......... > > Larry Flesner > > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 20:51:27 -0500 > From: Adam <adamtip...@gmail.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2 > Message-ID: <68b1cf3c-d88e-42be-b121-f8b205abb...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Previous statement: > Insurance companies don't pay out what you insure for, value rate. > My local EAA gathering on Feb 6, 2017 > We had a Broker by the name of Nathan Woodall V.P. here in Knoxville. > He stated that the insurance would pay out > What you have the value set for. > If you are paying for the Set Value of $20,000 the Totaled vehicle payout > will be $20,000. > He stated automobiles are different. > Auto's if you state value is $40k and actual blue book is $20k, then they > will pay out $30k. For Totaled Vehicle. > > Adam Tippin > A&P KR2S builder > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 23:22:06 -0500 > From: jmelvin...@aol.com > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Archives Repopulated through 2003 > Message-ID: <29fbc8.37a5a92b.45cd4...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > John, > > Do you need the KR newsletters? I have #1 - 266. > > John Melvin > > > In a message dated 2/7/2017 6:05:32 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > krnet@list.krnet.org writes: > > The prior KRNet archives server failed this past fall/ winter and, despite > efforts by Mark and others, it appeared dead. I volunteered to > find an alternate and it's running now. > Effective 2 days ago, the new KRNet Archives server now has a full listing > of all articles beginning in 2003. Prior articles are coming too > but back-filling those are going to take a while so start using it now. > You can access the new search tool through this link; > http://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org > If you forget the link, at the bottom of each KRNet message is a reminder > to > please utilize the search engine instead of asking questions that have been > answered > in the past. > If you have any questions, let me know. Thanks. > John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 > OR81/ Hillsboro, OR > 2015 KR@MMV Gathering CoHost > > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:53:53 +0100 (CET) > From: Stef den Boer <stefk...@ziggo.nl> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Bolts engine mount > Message-ID: > > <113310113.4358236.1486626833774.javamail.open-xcha...@oxbe10.tb.mail.iss.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi larry, > Is you 0-200 installed with 4 or 8 3/8 bolts trhough the firewall? > Stef > >> Op 8 februari 2017 om 0:48 schreef Larry Flesner via KRnet >> <krnet@list.krnet.org>: >> >> >> At 05:02 PM 2/7/2017, you wrote: >>> Can I use the 5/16 AN bolts for the engine mount? Is >>> this strong enough? >>> Thanks >>> Stef >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Find the chart for the bolts you intend to use (such as >> http://www.almabolt.com/pages/catalog/bolts/proofloadtensile.htm ) >> and check the tensile strength. I'm betting that many other airframe >> parts will fail before a good quality bolt lets go. It's been many >> years ago but I recall using standard aircraft bolts from Wick's in >> 3/8" size of the correct length for my mount for the >> 0-200. Important to put a crush plate on each side of the firewall >> as to not crush the wood. >> >> Larry Flesner >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see > http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:03:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Bill Jacobs <billjacobs...@yahoo.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Archives Repopulated through 2003 > Message-ID: <1716623373.1019373.1486641809...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Many thanks!Your efforts are greatly appreciated.Regards, > Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl. > > On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:25 PM, John via KRnet > <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: > > > John, > > Do you need the KR newsletters? I have #1 - 266. > > John Melvin > > > In a message dated 2/7/2017 6:05:32 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,? > krnet@list.krnet.org writes: > > The? prior KRNet archives server failed this past fall/ winter and,? despite > efforts by Mark and others, it appeared dead. I volunteered to? > find an alternate and it's running now. > Effective 2 days ago, the new? KRNet Archives server now has a full listing > of all articles beginning in? 2003. Prior articles are coming too > but back-filling those are going to? take a while so start using it now. > You can access the new search tool? through this link; > http://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org > If? you forget the link, at the bottom of each KRNet message is a reminder? > to > please utilize the search engine instead of asking questions that have? been > answered > in the past. > If you have any questions, let me know.? Thanks. > John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 > OR81/ Hillsboro, OR > 2015 KR@MMV? Gathering? CoHost > > > _______________________________________________ > Search? the KRnet Archives at? > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES? and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see? http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change? > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to? krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 06:13:43 -0600 > From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Archives Repopulated through 2003 > Message-ID: <dc545d47-9eed-6ade-85e9-c8e307a06...@n56ml.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > John Melvin wrote: > >> Do you need the KR newsletters? I have #1 - 266. > > All of the KRNewsletters are located at > http://www.krnet.org/newsletter/ , along with all but the first of the > "KR Quarterly", which Steve Bennett published during a lull in KR > Newletter publication. All of these are searchable PDF files, making it > pretty darn easy to search for whatever you want. What I haven't done > yet is post the full version of all of these rolled into one file, > mainly because that's a huge file, and people will start complaining > that they couldn't download it all because their ISP won't allow such a > big download. The extra bandwidth would likely increase the cost of > KRnet.org yearly cost, which is running on a shoestring already. > > All of this, and more is accessible from the www.krnet.org website, > along with several hundred builder projects. Those who have not spent a > month looking through all of this stuff don't know what they are missing. > > And yes, thanks again to John Bouyea for his efforts on this. The > previous volunteer (Tom at Tugantek) is no long able to support it, for > unknown reasons, but John stepped up to the plate and reconstituted the > whole thing all over again. > > Mark Langford > m...@n56ml.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:18:13 -0300 > From: "Eduardo Barros" <edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar> > To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Regardez "VID 20131216 144515 420" sur YouTube > Message-ID: <FB93A45418374CDCA5438808556F77C2@EDUARDO> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Excellente mon ami, un tr?s bel avion que vous avez construit > Saludos > > Eduardo Barros > San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina > > Mail: edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar > Visite el proyecto de construcci?n del avi?n experimental "Kr2 EGB": > www.kr2-egb.com.ar > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jean paul GLOTIN via KRnet > To: robert gill via KRnet > Cc: jean paul GLOTIN > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 1:42 PM > Subject: KR> Regardez "VID 20131216 144515 420" sur YouTube > > > https://youtu.be/u95DXZiIO1w > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > ----- > Se certifico que el correo no contiene virus. > Comprobada por AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Base de datos de virus: 4756/13915 - Fecha de la > version: 09/02/2017 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 07:15:00 -0600 > From: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> > To: Stef den Boer <stefk...@ziggo.nl>,KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Bolts engine mount > Message-ID: > <20170209131509.2aa3979...@filter01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 01:53 AM 2/9/2017, you wrote: >> Is you 0-200 installed with 4 or 8 3/8 bolts trhough the firewall? >> Stef > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Just 4 bolts with a crush plate on each side of the firewall. You > can see one in the photo > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8531.JPG just below > the pilot's right pedal. The crush plate is 1/8" steel and about 2 > 1/2" X 3" in size. The firewall will break away before the bolts > fail. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/100_1231.JPG > > Larry Flesner > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:51:24 -0500 (EST) > From: pi...@mymts.net > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: KR> Don Chisholm > Message-ID: > <1852376430.249288842.1486648284003.javamail.zim...@mymts.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Does anybody know if Don is still around? > If so then how to get in touch with him? I am looking for some info on some > pats I acquired that I think he may know about. > They appear to be from a project that Don bought at one time. > Thanks > Bob R > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:04:17 -0500 > From: Chris Gardiner <cgardn...@rogers.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Don Chisholm > Message-ID: <053fa31b-ad01-4299-8c08-82b4d1389...@rogers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Bob, > Yes, Don is a friend of mine. > I don't have a current phone number for him but his email is: > Dcchizm@gmail > He's also on Facebook . > I'll send him a Messenger request to contact you. > Regards > Chris Gardiner > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Robert Russell via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> wrote: >> >> Does anybody know if Don is still around? >> If so then how to get in touch with him? I am looking for some info on some >> pats I acquired that I think he may know about. >> They appear to be from a project that Don bought at one time. >> Thanks >> Bob R >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:07:13 -0500 (EST) > From: pi...@mymts.net > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Don Chisholm > Message-ID: > <1042430510.249332578.1486649233730.javamail.zim...@mymts.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Oh terrific, thanks Chris > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Gardiner via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Cc: "Chris Gardiner" <cgardn...@rogers.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 8:04:17 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Don Chisholm > > Bob, > Yes, Don is a friend of mine. > I don't have a current phone number for him but his email is: > Dcchizm@gmail > He's also on Facebook . > I'll send him a Messenger request to contact you. > Regards > Chris Gardiner > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Robert Russell via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> wrote: >> >> Does anybody know if Don is still around? >> If so then how to get in touch with him? I am looking for some info on some >> pats I acquired that I think he may know about. >> They appear to be from a project that Don bought at one time. >> Thanks >> Bob R >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > KRnet mailing list > KRnet@list.krnet.org > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of KRnet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 34 > ************************************ _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. 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