While I only have a 10th of the time in my KR2S as Joe has in his, I agree  
with his opinions.  The majority of my time in the airplane so far has been 
 in 3 hour legs flying from coast to coast, and I can say without 
hesitation that  I never adjusted the trim once during the entire trip.  It is 
set 
for hands  off flight while straight and level, but if I let go in a climb it 
stays there  also.  I don't usually let go while landing, and control forces 
are  basically the same anyway wherever the trim is set.  Heck, my trim 
adjuster  only has about an inch of travel anyway, so it's hardly worth moving 
it.

I so far have not noticed any change in stability as C.G. shifts aft  
during the flight, but have not pushed to the aft limit, and don't really plan  
to after reading Marks horror stories.  It certainly seems steady as a rock  
with two people in it and about 4 gallons of gas left in the header tank, 
and I  can't imagine loading it any more aft than that. Of course if you 
double the  capacity of the header tank it might be enough to start noticing a 
C.G. shift in  flight.  I'm not an engineer.

Certainly when it comes to risk management, everyone has their own level of 
 risk acceptance.  One could argue that just because one person managed to  
get away with operating safely does not mean that we should turn our noses 
up at  any modification to the original design that might improve safety.  
At the  same time, when hundreds of people have operated the same basic 
design without  any problems you could easily argue that there is nothing wrong 
with bypassing  modifications that may increase building time, weight, 
complexity, etc. if you  are willing to accept the same level of risk that they 
all did...and  survived.  I once watched a program on TV called Fear  Factor 
in which they had contestants performing some task on a very  high catwalk or 
such.  It looked like it would be lots of fun to try, but  then they ruined 
it by having the contestants wear so much safety gear i.e.  harnesses, 
wires, helmets, goggles, etc. that there was no way you could  possible get 
even 
a minor or superficial injury even if you dove off the  place.  Where's the 
FEAR FACTOR come in?  I certainly don't mean you  have to be afraid of 
flying, but the important thing is that some of the thrill  comes from the fact 
that we know when we fly that we are doing something that if  done 
incorrectly can have tragic and deadly consequences, and we have trained  
ourselves 
to do it safely.  Not everyone can do that.  We get some of  the same kind of 
thrill by flying a well built homebuilt airplanebecause not  everyone can 
build something that can safely fly.  Sure maybe it could be  built even 
safer, but is there a cost in how we will feel when we fly it?

Sorry I'm rambling.  ......... Just my thoughts.

Have fun flying guys,

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA




In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:41:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com writes:

Don't  sweat it. I have the 12 gal header tank ...(and  I)... accept the 
risk. ... I fly for hours at a time and i  really would not even have to 
change the trim from full load in all the tanks  to nearly empty. ... now be 
real 
about your personal risk level after all  your building your own real live 
airplane in a livingroom ar something. I am  concentrating on not having an 
accident for risk management.let the fire  begin,Joe HortonCoopersburg, 
PA.565hours  KR2s

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