To Jeff,
     First, I do not know how to delete the excess messages.  I would be 
interested in the engines if the shipping isn't to high.  They would be 
shipping to Roseville, Ohio 43777.  I would be glad to check the cost if I know 
the shipping weight or you may check with my zip code.  They would be delivered 
to a business that has a fork lift.  Please advise.  Thank you, Dave Coulson> 
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(laser...@juno.com)> 4. Re: AS5048 airfoil (Gary Lynn Robison)> 5. Re: AS5048 
airfoil (Gary Lynn Robison)> 6. Questions for the masses (wilder_jeff Wilder)> 
7. Free: 2 engines in colorado (wilder_jeff Wilder)> 8. Don Sheldon (Ron Vogt)> 
9. Re: Questions for the masses (Pete)> 10. Re: WIng change and loading (Ameet 
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Message: 1> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:17:25 -0700> From: "George Bearden" 
<ga...@sbcglobal.net>> Subject: RE: KR> This is hard to believe> To: "'KRnet'" 
<kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: 
<D83799D16E1C4BD881F5C7D44EB69B48@GeoBCN2CCRVZT0>> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="us-ascii"> > Naw, I'm pulling yer nails, Dude. It was my sister, I 
can't fly that good.> GeoB > > -----Original Message-----> From: 
rahu...@peoplepc.com [mailto:rahu...@peoplepc.com] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 
2008 10:44 AM> To: KRnet> Subject: Re: KR> This is hard to believe> > George 
Bearden wrote :> > >Oh, no! Its real. I was there and saw it happen, just like 
that. I > >didn't> wanna say anything to youse guys cuz you wouldn't believe 
me.<> > We would like to but, Where and When did this happen?> > The root of 
the wing at the fuselage sure looks like model construction than> a full size 
man carrying aircraft to me.> > Rick Human> N202RH> Houston, Texas > > > > > > 
> > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 
22:27:45 -0700 (PDT)> From: Allen Wiesner <allenwies...@sbcglobal.net>> 
Subject: Re: KR> AS5048 airfoil> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: 
<502860.98982...@web82304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=us-ascii> > >From: GARY ROBISON > > >Subject: KR> AS5048 airfoil> > >I 
have the coordinates for the AS5048 from the kr net but I get a squiggle > >in 
them on the lower one at the leading edge> > >If some one has another set would 
you send them to me or post them ??> > >I am trying to get a print out of an 
intermediate foil at the waf's with my > >bent spars I bought the software and 
the AS5045> >coordinates seem right but the 5048 is not (I took the "0" s off)> 
> I had also plotted out the AS5048 coordinates (Dec. 06) and came up with> the 
same problem. AIR, I had passed the corrected info back to ML but I > can't 
find the MSG now. In any case, looking at the numbers in my plot, I> think that 
the error (s) is/are in lines 42 through 44 and they should read> as follows:> 
> X Y My Comments> > Line 41 .00240 .01003 O.K.> Line 42 .00041 .00424 Was Line 
43> Line 43 .00014 .00239 Was Line 42> Line 44 .00441 -.00990 Needs the "minus" 
sign> Line 45 .01248 -.01556 O.K.> > To make the curve come out right on my old 
version of TurboCad I also had> to add a Line 43A with X and Y both as .00000. 
Hope this helps, and maybe> ML can correct me if I've got it wrong.> > Allen G. 
Wiesner KR-2SS S/N 1118 T/D / CorvAIR> 65 Franklin Street> Ansonia, CT 
06401-1240> > > 203-732-0508> > "It ain't over until the fat lady sings".> > 
------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:02:40 
-0700> From: laser...@juno.com> Subject: KR> wow that was a long one> To: 
kr...@mylist.net> Message-ID: <20081031.230240.1600.0.laser...@juno.com>> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > From: airb...@comcast.net> 
Subject: Re: KR> n357CJ update> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID:> > 
<110120080247.26636.490BC33700099DE30000680C2213539653CE099A0D9D070E@comc> 
ast.net>> > > wow that was a long one...... but good news> > ****************> 
> Then why did you re-post the whole thing?> > Mike> 
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 > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 
02:29:29 -0400> From: "Gary Lynn Robison" <djgaryl...@verizon.net>> Subject: 
Re: KR> AS5048 airfoil> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: 
<000c01c93beb$32a33580$2f01a8c0@GLR100>> Content-Type: text/plain; 
format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;> reply-type=original> > That sure makes it 
look right??> That took the "squiggle" out. I hate> to use this to cut my spars 
and it be off> but I don't think the error is in that area.> > I was wondering 
if the coordinates are> published on Stanford's website?> I will look tomorrow. 
It's 2 AM here> and I have fooled with this on and off> all evening. I think a 
couple of antacids> and bed will help.> > By the way ML got me into this fine 
mess!!> He's fly'in all around the country and I'm> crunch'in numbers and 
smear'in high-lighter> on my plans. Some day he'll look off his wing> and I'll 
be sitting there !! I show him !!> > > TNX Allen> > Gary> > P.S. She only hums, 
don't know the words I guess.> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen 
Wiesner" <allenwies...@sbcglobal.net>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>> Sent: 
Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:27 AM> Subject: Re: KR> AS5048 airfoil> > > 
>From: GARY ROBISON> > >Subject: KR> AS5048 airfoil> > >I have the coordinates 
for the AS5048 from the kr net but I get a squiggle> >in them on the lower one 
at the leading edge> > >If some one has another set would you send them to me 
or post them ??> > >I am trying to get a print out of an intermediate foil at 
the waf's with my> >bent spars I bought the software and the AS5045> 
>coordinates seem right but the 5048 is not (I took the "0" s off)> > I had 
also plotted out the AS5048 coordinates (Dec. 06) and came up with> the same 
problem. AIR, I had passed the corrected info back to ML but I> can't find the 
MSG now. In any case, looking at the numbers in my plot, I> think that the 
error (s) is/are in lines 42 through 44 and they should read> as follows:> > X 
Y My Comments> > Line 41 .00240 .01003 O.K.> Line 42 .00041 .00424 Was Line 43> 
Line 43 .00014 .00239 Was Line 42> Line 44 .00441 -.00990 Needs the "minus" 
sign> Line 45 .01248 -.01556 O.K.> > To make the curve come out right on my old 
version of TurboCad I also had> to add a Line 43A with X and Y both as .00000. 
Hope this helps, and maybe> ML can correct me if I've got it wrong.> > Allen G. 
Wiesner KR-2SS S/N 1118 T/D / CorvAIR> 65 Franklin Street> Ansonia, CT 
06401-1240> > > 203-732-0508> > "It ain't over until the fat lady sings".> 
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Message: 5> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:33:14 -0400> From: "Gary Lynn Robison" 
<djgaryl...@verizon.net>> Subject: Re: KR> AS5048 airfoil> To: "KRnet" 
<kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: <000601c93c04$dda3e010$2f01a8c0@GLR100>> 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;> 
reply-type=original> > Hi Allen I down loaded this early today> > Here's the 
one from http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/ads/coord_database.html#A> > > .01454 
.02625> .00721 .01805> .00240 .01003> .00014 .00239> .00041 -.00424> .00441 
-.00990> .01248 -.01556> .02377 -.02150> Data just got corrupted along the 
line. .01454 .02625 0> .00721 .01805 0> .00240 .01003 0> .00014 .00239 0> 
.00041 .00424 0> .00441 .00990 0> .01248 -.01556 0> .02377 -.02150 0> > Gary> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen Wiesner" 
<allenwies...@sbcglobal.net>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>> Sent: Saturday, 
November 01, 2008 1:27 AM> Subject: Re: KR> AS5048 airfoil> > > >From: GARY 
ROBISON> > >Subject: KR> AS5048 airfoil> > >I have the coordinates for the 
AS5048 from the kr net but I get a squiggle> >in them on the lower one at the 
leading edge> > >If some one has another set would you send them to me or post 
them ??> > >I am trying to get a print out of an intermediate foil at the waf's 
with my> >bent spars I bought the software and the AS5045> >coordinates seem 
right but the 5048 is not (I took the "0" s off)> > I had also plotted out the 
AS5048 coordinates (Dec. 06) and came up with> the same problem. AIR, I had 
passed the corrected info back to ML but I> can't find the MSG now. In any 
case, looking at the numbers in my plot, I> think that the error (s) is/are in 
lines 42 through 44 and they should read> as follows:> > X Y My Comments> > 
Line 41 .00240 .01003 O.K.> Line 42 .00041 .00424 Was Line 43> Line 43 .00014 
.00239 Was Line 42> Line 44 .00441 -.00990 Needs the "minus" sign> Line 45 
.01248 -.01556 O.K.> > To make the curve come out right on my old version of 
TurboCad I also had> to add a Line 43A with X and Y both as .00000. Hope this 
helps, and maybe> ML can correct me if I've got it wrong.> > Allen G. Wiesner 
KR-2SS S/N 1118 T/D / CorvAIR> 65 Franklin Street> Ansonia, CT 06401-1240> > > 
203-732-0508> > "It ain't over until the fat lady sings".> 
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Message: 6> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:14:01 -0600> From: wilder_jeff Wilder 
<wilder_j...@msn.com>> Subject: KR> Questions for the masses> To: 
<kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: <bay106-w14fa3da0fbb51fc6ec904694...@phx.gbl>> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > All,> > I have a Revmaster 
2180 turbo which has not run in some time... I am trying to figure out should I 
keep it.. or just source an O200 for it. > > My question is this, the turbo 
impellers currently do not rotate. I've spent some time and disassembled the 
intake out and output housing to remove anything that would be physically 
binding it from rotating; as I've posted earlerier, the engine has not run in 
about 10 years.> > Someone had suggested that because there is no oil pressure 
to the turbo, that there might be some type of lock wich would prevent it from 
spinning, preventing the Rajay turbo from spinning up without oil pressure.> 
Can anyone provide any insight?> > > > Secondary,> > > The original prop that 
was on there was a metal 2 speed prop that was designed to run on the 
Revmaster. As most are aware that make of prop was red tagged for loosing 
blades while in flight.> I currently have a 52x52 wooden prop but would like to 
look into the posibility of an adjustable prop for the front end of my bird to 
take advantage of the turbo.> > There has been alot of converation around 
composit props and that they should not be used on the front of the 
Revmaster... Does anyone have any experience with such a prop on the front of a 
Revmaster 2180 and if so, can you please point me into the direction of a prop 
which would work for this solution.> > > Thanks in advance,> > Jeff W.> > 
------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:56:24 
-0600> From: wilder_jeff Wilder <wilder_j...@msn.com>> Subject: KR> Free: 2 
engines in colorado> To: <kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: 
<bay106-w41a3d4490c96116500b89694...@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1"> > > All,> > For those who are interested, I have 2 
engines for the taking. > > 1 Subaru E81b> 1 Corvair ( I cannot find the serial 
#'s )> > > I am North of Denver. If I cant find a good home for them, I am 
going to send them off to the junkyard/dump> > > -Jeff> > 
------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:45:42 
-0700> From: Ron Vogt <rv93...@hotmail.com>> Subject: KR> Don Sheldon> To: 
KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: 
<bay142-w10d98504759d94cd121d45f8...@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Netters;> This is a little off the KR subject, but I 
think I will interject it anyway. I've spent the last 2 summers flying out of 
Talkeetna, Alaska...which was Don Sheldon's base of operations. You might find 
it interesting to know that he is credited with crashing 32 airplanes. He is 
most famous for flying sick and injured climbers off of Mt. McKinley. He died 
of cancer in 1974, but his wife and one of his daughters still live in 
Talkeetna. His youngest daughter was one of the original Power Rangers. As far 
as I know, he never flew a KR-2.> From: t...@telus.net> To: kr...@mylist.net> 
Subject: Re: KR> Lost wing in flight. Video clip- unbelievable-> Date: Fri, 31 
Oct 2008 21:14:50 -0600> > Alaskan Bush Pilot Don Sheldon.....(book "Wager with 
the Wind" the Don > Sheldon Story")> > Lost his wing while flying his Super 
Cub. This is recollection of a book I > read over 20yrs ago....>> > Don was 
over a marshy/muskeg area and as the Super Cub dropped doing a weird > jiration 
of a spin, he figurerd at the last second a control in put may put > the A/C in 
flat perhaps being surviable.....He tried it. A/C rotated and > travelled 
sideways into the trees surrounding this marsh....Once he climbed > down, lived 
to fly another day. Great Book, Great Pilot.> > Coldlake-Tim > > > 
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+1100> From: Pete <stranged...@dodo.com.au>> Subject: Re: KR> Questions for the 
masses> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>> Message-ID: 
<490cfd16.8020...@dodo.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; 
format=flowed> > > Jeff, the RayJay turbo runs in a shell bearing much like 
that in which a > camshaft runs, which uses oil to both lubricate and support 
the shaft. > If the engine has not run for as long as you say then it is 
possible the > bearing has seized. The other thing to note with regard to the 
RayJay > units is when you have the compressor housing off, the back plate, 
which > is mounted on a spring, will move forward contacting the impeller > 
preventing it from turning.> I hope this helps.> Cheers.> Pete.> > wilder_jeff 
Wilder wrote:> > All,> > > > I have a Revmaster 2180 turbo which has not run in 
some time... I am trying to figure out should I keep it.. or just source an 
O200 for it. > > > > My question is this, the turbo impellers currently do not 
rotate. I've spent some time and disassembled the intake out and output housing 
to remove anything that would be physically binding it from rotating; as I've 
posted earlerier, the engine has not run in about 10 years.> > > > Someone had 
suggested that because there is no oil pressure to the turbo, that there might 
be some type of lock wich would prevent it from spinning, preventing the Rajay 
turbo from spinning up without oil pressure.> > Can anyone provide any 
insight?> > > > > > > > Secondary,> > > > > > The original prop that was on 
there was a metal 2 speed prop that was designed to run on the Revmaster. As 
most are aware that make of prop was red tagged for loosing blades while in 
flight.> > I currently have a 52x52 wooden prop but would like to look into the 
posibility of an adjustable prop for the front end of my bird to take advantage 
of the turbo.> > > > There has been alot of converation around composit props 
and that they should not be used on the front of the Revmaster... Does anyone 
have any experience with such a prop on the front of a Revmaster 2180 and if 
so, can you please point me into the direction of a prop which would work for 
this solution.> > > > > > Thanks in advance,> > > > Jeff W.> > 
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------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:20:58 
-0700 (PDT)> From: Ameet Savant <ameetsav...@yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: KR> WIng 
change and loading> To: kr...@mylist.net> Message-ID: 
<77183.50249...@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=us-ascii> > An 8" inboard move on a 11.5' (= 23/2) wing would mean 
approximately a 6% inboard move of the WAF point. Which would mean an increase 
to (1.06)^2 times the shear load at the old WAF point and an increase to 
(1.06)^3 times the bending moment at the old WAF point.> > Hope that helps.> > 
Ameet Savant> Omaha, NE> > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, bobby burington 
<bobbycrea...@yahoo.com> wrote:> > > From: bobby burington 
<bobbycrea...@yahoo.com>> > Subject: KR> WIng change and loading> > To: 
kr...@mylist.net> > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 4:31 PM> > Does anyone have 
a program or a way to calc the wing loading> > and stress to the waf's if the 
stub wing were shortened> > to say 5 to 8 inches and the wings were built 
longer to the> > same overall width as the normal KR. ?> > > > Thanks> > Bobby 
Burington> > California KR Builder > > > > > > > > > > 
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