I looked into the Mazda 13b with a PSRU... the end weight was about 350 lbs or more.
Can the KR2 airframe handle that kind of weight hanging off the front?.. or the pull of 200HP? -Jeff Wilder CISSP,CCE,C/EH -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM/CS/O d- s:+ a C+++ UH++ P L++ E- w-- N+++ o-- K- w O- M-- V-- PS+ PE- Y++ PGP++ t+ 5- X-- R* tv b++ DI++ D++ G e* h--- r- y+++* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >From: "Colin Rainey" <brokerpi...@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> >Subject: KR> Speed vs. HP >Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:14:40 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([66.241.145.18]) by >bay0-mc5-f14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, >15 Mar 2007 22:13:49 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)(envelope-from ><krnet-boun...@mylist.net>)id 1HS4l6-000PDg-GU; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:13:44 >-0800 >Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71])by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)(envelope-from ><brokerpi...@bellsouth.net>) id 1HS4l5-000PDH-Qufor kr...@mylist.net; Thu, >15 Mar 2007 21:13:44 -0800 >Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.18.38])by >imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP >id<20070316051242.uzbi4141.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth....@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net>for > ><kr...@mylist.net>; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:12:42 -0400 >Received: from RaineyDay ([70.152.18.38]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with >SMTPid <20070316051241.PAAU1538.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@RaineyDay>for ><kr...@mylist.net>; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:12:41 -0400 >X-Message-Info: >txF49lGdW4231nVidOsCmpJXBie7PZ/6WzgtCAM//07G9IEoIy+dGFiF8lRYWP0H >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 >X-DNSbl-Warning: 205.152.59.71 is listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net (Spam >ReceivedRecently See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?205.152.59.71) >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: kr...@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet <krnet.mylist.net> >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mylist.net/private/krnet> >List-Post: <mailto:kr...@mylist.net> >List-Help: <mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet>,<mailto:krnet-requ...@mylist.net?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: krnet-boun...@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-boun...@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2007 05:13:49.0461 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E17D3C50:01C76789] > >"You will probably see 250 mph with pants and 200 hp" > >It doesn't work like that in the air, like adding HP to a car and expecting >speed increases. Mark's climb rate will definitely get a BIG jump, possibly >the best in the bunch so far, if he can match a prop to it. But increasing >HP does little to increase cruise or top speed after a point, especially >for >planes flying at or near 200 mph and up. > >Back a few months ago we discussed this at length, and all who have studied >on this have agreed; more is gained by drag reduction than HP increase. To >double the speed, drag is increased by 4 times. To get 250 mph from a KR2S, >one needs to lose the front wheel, or work very hard on a completely >aerodynamically faired leg, not just a cover, and the same holds true for >the mains, and their legs. Now anything sticking out in the breeze becomes >important; so that round strobe Mark has will have an impact at these >speeds; any antennae should have a fairing, not just be left round; wing >root fairings need special attention due to this area relating heavily to >the highest lift area on the wing so also potentially the highest drag >area; >cowl flap(s) become a consideration to reduce drag; greater rake to the >vertical stab, etc... > >"Speed with Economy" is definitely the bible here... > >There are a lot of pluses to using the Mazda 13B in aircraft with firewalls >designed for their weight. But without alot of reinforcing, similar to the >refit rebuild that the KR360 got, I think the Mazda is too heavy, and high >output. Better to use a different engine with slightly less HP but just as >much torque after the re-drive and stay with what your firewall/airframe >can >handle... > >JMHO... > >Colin Rainey >brokerpi...@bellsouth.net >N96TA > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >Post photos, introductions, and For Sale items to >http://www.kr2forum.com/phpBB2/index.php >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html