I have a standard KR2 with a Jabiru 2200 80 HP engine, over prop'ed and I
was solo at about 780lbs.

In a real life experience situation I have landed over 60ft +/- trees on to
2500ft of runway, landing was my issue and I stopped 100ft short of the end
fence (won't do that again).  Taking off was ok because there were no trees
at the other end.  My estimate is that I would need 3000ft of runway to
clear a 50ft obstacle. (All on grass ofcourse)

Regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm


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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Larry&Sallie Flesner

As no one else has posted I'll throw out some numbers for you to consider.
These numbers are based on a KR of reasonable weight, 650 lbs or less with
100 honest h.p.

My first question would be "are there trees at both ends"?

On grass I wouldn't count on getting airborne in less than 1000 feet as the
conditions of the grass can vary greatly.
Four seconds from lift off to establish a 75mph climb of 1000 fpm and you've
used 1400 feet.  You said you wanted to "easily" clear the trees so assume
you want to be at 90 feet altitude at the tree line.  That will take an
additional 650 feet at 110 fps (16 vertical fps )so you've used a shade more
than 2000 feet. That's assuming you did everything right, cool temps, etc.
Light weight, lots of power, and plenty of drag for landing and 2500 feet
might be enough. It depends on your comfort
level.   Some might say this is a bit conservative but I just
hate putting "pucker wrinkles" in the seat cushions.

Personally, with my overweight pig, tired and over-propped 0-200, and 8
inches shorter than stock wings, I wouldn't fly in to a strip of less than
3000 feet that had 70 foot trees on the end.  Then only if I could zig or
zag around them on take off or landing.

Larry Flesner


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