The real answer, regarding transponders, is found in FAR part 91.215, 
nowhere else.  Unless you get prior permission from ATC, and if your plane 
is (or ever was) certified with an engine driven electrical system, you are 
not allowed to fly it above 10,000 ft without a transponder. Also, you are 
not allowed to fly in class A, B or C airspace, or above class B or C 
airport lateral bounderies at or below 10,000 ft.  Also, you are not allowed 
to fly from the surface upward to 10,000 ft. within 30 nautical miles of an 
airport designated in Part 91, Appendix D, section 1. (That includes 34 of 
the busiest airports in the U.S.)

The rules are different for planes never having been certified with engine 
driven electrical systems.  The AIM does not accurately reflect the rules 
governing planes which have never been certified with an engine driven 
electrical system.  I think this is a reflection of how complicated 91.215 
is written.

DON'T TRUST WHAT ANYONE HAS POSTED ON THIS SUBJECT, INCLUDING ME.  READ THE 
RULES FOR YOURSELF TO BE SURE!!!!!! 
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/5EE8F0240FD4DD3986256A6900532C8A?OpenDocument

Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com
Sharonville, OH
N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig, KR-2
KHAO



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe H Horton" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
>        While I have your attention I have an FAR question. Is it legal
> to fly over class B ceiling without radio communications or transponder.
> I asked legal not if it is wise.



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