On buying a non completed airplane and the 51% rule. I went in on a KR2 that was 75 to 80%done and my DAR said i would have to redo part of it to comply with the 51% rule . But he also said by the time you paint and finsh and insterments ect i might have 51%.Besides the wings were screwed up so to rebuilb them would have done it to.The point is you have to prove you did 51% of the work.As far as working on it without a reparmen certificate goes. If you don't have one for the airplane in question, legally the only work you can do is the same work that an owner of a certified plane can do. And the repairmans certificate is for just that one airplane and not the KR down the street. There are a lot of DARs that don't know the rules and don't care about learning the rules they just want their fee and are full of s--t. The problem comes down the road when something happens and you or your estate are in court and someone is sueing.Its better to to it right to start with.
-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Kraut <brian.kr...@engalt.com> >Sent: Jul 25, 2006 10:10 PM >To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >Subject: RE: KR> 51% Rule > >Colin brings up an interresting point that I had previously clarified with >an FAA inspector a few years ago. When you have a homebuilt you can do all >of the repairs or modifications weather you built it or not. The only thing >the repairman certificate gives you is the ability to do the annual >condition inspection. Also, any A&P can do the condition inspection on an >experimental. He does not need to be an IA like with a certified airplane. >That means that it generally costs a lot less than an annual on a certified >plane. So what all this means is that if you are considering buying an >experimental that you can not get the repairman certificate on, don't let >that factor hold you back. It is nice to have, but you still have 99% of >the advantages of an experimental weather you have the cert or not. > >Brian Kraut >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >www.engalt.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On >Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net >Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:43 AM >To: kr...@mylist.net >Subject: KR> 51% Rule > > >Randy >The 51% rule only applies to the actual construction of the kit or aircraft >in question. It is what separates a factory built aircraft kit from an >amateur built kit. > >The rules concerning being approved for repairman certificate are left more >on the judgement of the Airworthiness Representative who is conducting the >inspection at the time the certificate is issued. If the aircraft were >complete when purchased but never signed off, and say had been badly stored, >so that the new owner had to perform a great deal of repair work and >replacement of assemblies/rebuild, the DAR or FAA Rep could feel that he has >enough intimate knowledge of the airplane to be awarded a repairman's >certificate. I bought mine with 20 hours of engine running and taxi testing >but no flight time, and no certificate. I built a new seat for it, installed >new lights, radio, transponder, and several other instruments to make it >legal for Day and Night VFR, as well as a little bit safer and more >comfortable, like GPS, and a new pushtube control for the elevator, and dual >sticks. Although the DAR really liked the changes and felt I had done a >good job, he didn't award me repairman certification because I had not >constructed enough of the original airplane to conduct my own annual >condition inspection. He explained that that did not stop me from repairing >and then test flying the aircraft, but once a year I have to have another >DAR or A&P look over the plane and give it its condition inspection. A small >compromise in the scheme of things. > >Colin >N96TA >Ormond Beach, FL > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
