When you are flying a general aviation aircraft you are
limited to the airspeed limitations in the aircraft operating
manual, which were calibrated for that particular aircraft.
Therefore, we should do the same.
JR
SanFrancisco

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Stalls @ gross weights


>I wrote:  "you have to correleate your airspeed to ground speed..."
>
> And Steve Jacobs wrote: "Why?  Anything other than TAS is irrelevant."
>
> WHY?  Because the man is trying to do engineering calculations, so what 
> Joe,
> Bob, or Bill's airspeed indicator is reading at stall is irrelevant 
> without
> some frame of reference to tie back to the real world, and about the only
> one that's even remotely easy to correlate to is ground speed from a GPS.
> Airpseed indicators and static/pitot systems are notoriously inaccurate at
> low speeds.  Just throwing a number at him as gospel is guaranteed to give
> him inaccurate data, which is not what he needs.  I assume he's trying to
> design a plane that will meet Sport Pilot regulations (don't shoot me, I'm
> just the messenger).  Just look at the spread of "stall speeds" in the 
> list
> at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.xls ...they range from
> 46-60 mph.  And if my correct "clean" speed were on there, it would be
> 46-62.
>
> I think you missed the point of his question and my answer...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Jacobs" <st...@johnmartin.co.za>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Stalls @ gross weights
>
>
>> you have to correleate your airspeed to ground speed, ...
>>
>> +++++++++++++
>>
>> Why?  Anything other than TAS is irrelevant.
>>
>> TAS (IAS or CAS) is all the pilot has to inform him of the onset of a
>> stall.
>> I agree that it would be dufficult to establish and quanyify TAS at stall
>> (or any other flight situation) due to position error, instrument error,
>> calibration and even static source - thus important to establish the 
>> stall
>> speed in terms of IAS for each airplane.
>>
>> Have a great weekend
>> Steve
>>
>>
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