> And peculiar enough they also do most of the flaming and > correcting of everyone else.
Hi JR Thank you, Your observation is accurate and very welcomed. When Mark Lanford posted the KRnet rules about 12 hours ago, I think many veteran netters such as myself, thought.....Yea, I read those before, I know them, and hit the delete key. This morning, I took the time... and carefuly reread the KRnet rules. As I read, I was amazed of the many details that had slipped my mind. Mark Langford has done an masterful job in creating these rules. I encourage each and every KRnet veteran to grab a cup of coffee and sit down and Read the list then apply what they just learned. I have placed a copy of the KRnet rules below. Brant Hollensbe Des Moines Iowa bhollensbe at mchsi.com > This might be a good time to review the KRnet list rules at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html . > We have a few folks who feel compelled to comment on just about every post > made, and I can only be thankful that all 600 of us don't do that, or we'd > be wading through several thousand emails a day! Please be considerate of > your fellow KRNetHeads. A few of us would do well to heed the following > advice: > 1) Think long and hard before you publicly flame somebody on this list. > This > list may not be like others you've been on. We don't do that here, period. > If you have a personal problem with another lister, you need to address it > off the list and spare the rest of us your angst. If you disagree with > something somebody else posted, you can disagree in a nice manner without > getting all bent out of shape. Just point out your side of the discussion > and let others be the judge. Public flaming and superfluous bad language > will not be tolerated. > > 2) When replying to a post, delete everything except one or two key > sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to search > thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some clown > wrote > "me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from previous posts > also > gives people fits when searching the archives later, as they end up > getting > 10 hits for the same message. > > 3) Conversely, at least put SOMETHING in the post to remind us what you're > replying to. A post like "yeah, that's how I did mine and it works great" > doesn't mean a thing if you don't know what the guy's talking about, so > please cut and paste some of what you're replying to above your comments. > > 4) Carefully consider whether or not you even need to reply to a post. > Saying "me too", or "I don't know" doesn't contribute to the thread, it > just > makes the list more bothersome. If you don't know what you're talking > about, > maybe you should be listening, rather than talking. There are FEW people > who > know everything about everything. Try to stick to things you KNOW about, > and > let others answer the rest. > > 5) Try to write "keeper" posts if you're the expert on something. Cover > the > whole issue, answer all possible questions, address both sides of an > issue, > and make it a post that others will want to save or print out and keep. > Those are the gems that we all search for on KRNet. > > 6) Put your email address in your signature to make emailing others > "offnet" > easier. If we all had our addresses at the bottom of our posts, it would > be > far easier to "email direct". If it's blue just click on it, if it's not, > cut it and paste it into the "To" box. If throwing your email address out > on > the internet makes you nervous (and it should), camoflage it a little by > replacing the @ symbol with "at", or something similar, so that bot > crawlers > won't know what to do with it. > > 7) If you don't have anything subtantial to say, please don't post > anything. > This is a KR list, and as such, really needs to stay focused on KRs, or at > least airplanes. With over 600 people on the list, if we all decided to > say > something every day we'd have a real problem. Ask yourself "do 600 people > really need to see this, or are 600 people going to be annoyed by this?" > Personally, my time is pretty precious to me, and I hate to waste it > reading > inane email. And is it something that you could find somewhere else? > > 8) Don't send enclosed files directly to the list. Either post it to a web > site or get someone else to post it so others can see if they want, but > don't have to if they don't. Also, enclosures are famous for carrying > viruses, which we could all do without. I usually delete messages with > enclosures immediately, unless I'm expecting something from that person. I > don't have two days to rebuild my computer "for fun". And by all means, > arm > yourself with an anti-virus program such as Norton Antivirus or McAfee > Antivirus. There are even FREE antivirus programs out there. GET ONE! > > 9) If you have something you want to share, specify that you want replies > to > go offline. It's nice to say "hey, I've got the holy grail on > thingamajigs, > anybody want it?", but when 15 people reply online that they want it it > gets > kinda painful wading thru all of those posts for nothing. A gentle > reminder > to "reply offline" and furnishing your email address will be a big help. > > 10) Do not advertise commercial products to this list. It's OK to let > folks > know there's a new service or a new business, but point them to web site. > We > don't need a bunch of advertising here. Personal testimonials as to a > product's usefullness are welcome anytime, as long as it's not YOUR > product. > Advertising and selling KRs or KR parts IS permissible anytime, however. > > 11) Try not to take things personally. We're all here to help each other. > There are usually several ways to take comments. Always try to pick the > "nicest" interpretation, rather than trying to read animousity into a > post. > It's a lot easier to just ignore a snide comment and let it slide. Try to > avoid "having the last word". > > 12) It's OK to interject some personality into emails, just make a > contribution while you're at it. I like to let other KRNetters know who I > am > and what my interests are, but I try to tack that sort of stuff to the > bottom of a post in which I've made some sort of contribution to the > cause. > > 13) Keep personal stuff offline. Finding that some other KRNetter is from > your neck of the woods isn't a good enough reason to bother us all with > your > efforts to strike up an acquantance. Email him direct, rather than to the > list. > > 14) Do not forward "chain mail" or ANYTHING that urges the sender to "send > this to everyone in your address book", or "forward to all your friends". > These are almost always either hoaxes, viruses, or just plain don't have > any > place on KRnet. This includes messages dealing with politics, nationalism, > or religion. There are plenty of email lists where you can flood your > email > inbox with warm, touchy-feely messages from the heart. KRNet is NOT going > to > become one of them! > > 15) Change the subject if the thread starts to deviate from the original > intent. This makes searching the archive much more productive and far less > time-consuming for future builders who are in search of information. > > 16) Please read ALL of your messages before replying to ANY of them. Why? > Because much of the time, your reply will have already been answered by > somebody else (or lots of people), and your reply may just be redundant, > or > even worse, already disproved by somebody that knows more about it than > you > do! > > 17) Those who violate these suggestions may find themselves wondering why > they don't get KRNet mail anymore. I reserve the right to throw anybody > overboard that I see fit...
