Mark,

Hate to assume anything, especially about your plane, do you have a drain at
the lowest spot in the tank that you can use to see if water is accumulating
and thus open the drain and let the water out?

If not, before flushing everything, level the plane. It sit a while and get
a hose into the low spot and see what you can siphon out, if its water, then
you found the culprit.  I have had lots of boats in my short life, all of
them and every airplane I have been in out here in Seattle get water in the
tank, (Avg Humidity runs 60-80% year round) so there's no hiding from, hard
to see Alabama as being a dry place in terms of humidity either.

I have not ever (knock on a wooden fuselage) had this happen in flight, but
in the boats, after sitting around even with the tanks full,  it never fails
to cut out when you are going flat out trying to a get ahead of a larger
vessel, in the boat the tanks are flat bottomed and the pick up sits about a
1/2 inch from the bottom so to get water in the line you have to bounce it
around, which is usually when you least want that sort of behavior.


Jim Mullen

KR2S, Everett Washington


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Langford [mailto:n5...@hiwaay.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:40 PM
To: KRnet; Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft
Subject: KR> water in the fuel?

NetHeads,

I flew my plane 1.3 hours yesterday, and during climbout  the engine did 
some fairly serious "cutting out" at various rpms that appeared to have no 
correlation to each other.  After cozying up to what passes for a big 
airport (MDQ) around here, I started playing around with mixture, carb heat,

and everything else I could think of (including flipping the fuel/ignition 
swapout switch), and my final conclusion was that I have some water in my 
fuel.  I've had a few traces of this behavior over the last few flights, but

yesterday it really got my attention.

Here's my question:  Has anybody else had water in their fuel, and if so, is

the symptom that the engine cuts in and out rapidly and more or less 
sputters and scares the crap out of you?  And it comes and goes with no real

relation to anything else?  I'm not used to water in the fuel in my cars, so

this is a new phenomenon to me!   I can't think of anything else that would 
cause this, and the real clue is the fuel mixture meter drops into the super

lean area while it's misfiring.  Recorded EIS info merely proved that it was

misfiring for some reason.

Oh, you thought I was grounded and still waiting on that Mahogony tree to 
grow?  I still have the old Sterba prop, and the good news is that it's not 
really all that much different from the Sensenich from the vibration 
standpoint (must have been something with my "balanced" 3100cc).  I now have

some idea of the difference in power differential between the 3100cc and the

2700cc, but it's going to take some number crunching to quantify it.  Bottom

line is 160 rpm static, but there's also with a 40 degree temp delta, which 
makes it an even bigger difference.

Right now my plan is to spend the day tomorrow flushing the fuel system and 
filters, as well as the Ellison.  I talked to Ben and he gave me his 
blessing, since I convinced him I knew what I was doing.  Well, maybe it 
wasn't his blessing, but he pretty much assured me that if I took it all 
apart, somebody of my experience level would be able to blow it all out and 
put it back together with no problems at all. Having rebuilt a whole bunch 
of carbs from Solexes to Webers, this thing looks like a 5 minute job. 
Funny thing is he said that if I removed the safety wire from the screws, my

wife wouldn't be able to sue him over a faulty carb problem, which I'd have 
thought would have made him a happy man...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net




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