Welcome.

For the KR we usually are not using the peel ply for the same reason as most
people use it for.  We use it for a good finish that doesn't require a lot
of sanding.  The more normal use for peel ply is like Ed says with leaving a
surface with some "bite" to is for subsequent bonding.  Since the wings have
two layers of glass that are cured at the same time and most of the rest of
the glass is just one layer we don't do a whole lot of bonding to already
cured pieces.

One of the advantages of peel ply instead of plastic wrap or something
similar is that air bubbles and excess resin tend to suck up through the
peel ply.  If you use plastic wrap you can wind up with build ups of epoxy
that need to be sanded off, particularly under wrinkles in the wrap.  You
can also have bubbles under it that leave resin starved areas where the
bubbles were.  I have used Saran wrap and bagging film with success on
smaller areas and even some larger areas.  It is particularly good for
repair work where you can stretch it over the repair and come out with
something that matches the original surface with almost no filling and
sanding required.  I have even done this with just plastic packing tape
right over the wet resin.  I have done most of my new layups over foam
without peel ply or anything with good results also.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Ed Hollestelle
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Fiberglass laying


Hi there,
I am not a KR owner but I was interested in purchasing one a few weeks ago,
so the seller passed the group address on to me to see what this airplane is
all about.(Looks like a beautiful airplane but a little hot for my strip
behind the house.....)
I am actually building an RV-6 after building three composite gliders.
My son is an AME (I think you call them A&P) and operates a composite repair
shop. Please never use wax paper instead of peel ply...........
It leaves traces of wax to which nothing will bond. It also leaves a smooth
surface, not suitable for bonding.
Leave the peel ply on until you are ready to bond the next layer, that way
you have a perfect dust, dirt and oil free bonding surface. Make sure to
remove!
There was a fatal accident a few years back (at Centralia Airport just North
of here) during the initial flight of a composite  homebuilt.
The investigation found peel ply that was not removed during the lay-up of
some critical parts!
We use the peel ply that has red tracers to make sure it gets removed.
Serge Vidal should be able to get peel ply at any glider repair shop in
France.
Ed Hollestelle.

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:10 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass laying

        Ken Rand used waxed paper to do that. Peel ply is used
to avoid sanding when joining two parts, Virg
 I believe it is DACRON cloth

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:13:05 +0100 Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
writes:
> I bought some BID fiberglass today in a shop in Paris that sells all
> sorts
> of composites mainly for artists and designers. I was also looking
> for
> peel ply. The guy had never heard of it. When I explained the
> purpose, he
> showed me rolls of rigid plastic sheets (looking like old overhead
> projector slides). He said that's what his customers use when they
> want
> the cured surfaces to be smooth.
>
> That puzzles me. How come we don't do that? Is it because they fear
>
> trapped bubbles less than we do, or what?
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> Paris, France
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Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
Miami ,Fl

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