Hey, Jeff, here's my little experience with oil temp sensors, I hope I don't repeat what others may have said. On my 2180 VW the oil temps ran too high so I relocated the oil cooler and tried different ducts etc, etc until a little light bulb came on and I began to suspect the sender unit. I work in a hospital lab so I have access to calibrated high sensitivity thermometers. I got an electric hot plate, some cooking oil and a saucepan and heated the oil with the sensor and thermometer in the pan. Sure enough, the sensor was reading 15 F too high! I wish I had tried that six months before so I could have been flying the KR instead of messing around under the cowling.
>From: <jeffyor...@qx.net> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>,"Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com> >Subject: KR> A little hanger flying >Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:02:50 -0500 > >I was actually at a small airport back a few years ago and seen a mini max >EROS in an open hanger. I thought it looked like the coolest little >airplane >I had ever seen. It reminded me of a RANs airplane, but I do not remember >the model. Anyway, the guy had painted the EROS red. I did not get to see >it >run or fly as the owner was not around. For that matter there was not a >single person around on the airport. But as I said , my thoughts where "man >is that a cool little airplane" > >I used to travel a lot more then I do today. When I would be out of town on >business, I would make a point of trying to find the local airport or I >would actually drive secondary roads just to find remote little airports. I >just wanted to be around airplanes. This habit of finding airports got me >to >a lot of very remote and sometimes very small airports. Most of the time, I >would find the airport but there would not be a single person there. Most >of >the airports would have the open community hangers so I could just walk >through and look at plane after plane. > >By the way, one of the coolest airports I ever got to was, Washington >County >airport in Southern Indiana. The FBO was manned by the local EAA chapter. >Everyone in the chapter signed up to share their duty. The fuel pump was on >the honor system and I think it had a box that you would slip you money >into. The walls where cover in the torn t shirts, solo awards. They have a >little fly in every fall I believe. I went a few times and it was an >awesome >big little fly in. > >This reminds me of the time I was at another little airport somewhere in >Indiana. A guy flew in with a small Rans. I think it was a model S-9 or >something like that. Anyway , he pulls up to me because I was standing >close to the water hose. > >He gets out of his little plane and begins to wash it off. To wash the >bottom of the plane, he grabs a lawn chair that was sitting near by. You >know, one of those web lawn chairs. He grabs one side of his plane and >lifts >it up and sets the landing gear down in the lawn chair. He then could slid >under the airplane and finishes washing it. I was so amazed by this I had >to >watch. We talked and when he finished, he climbed in, grabbed a pull >starter, you know, like to ones you find on a snow mobile, pulls it, the >engine comes to life and he taxi's off. > >That was many years ago and I am sure it was before I had my pilots >license. >Not that you wanted to hear all this but, what the heck, I wrote it anyway. > >I guess this is as close to hanger flying as I am going to get today. > >As far as the next KR gathering, yes I plan to go, but the next time I >promise myself to have the KR there. I thought I was going to have it there >last fall. But, I had not solved my oil temp problem, which as I mentioned >previously, may not have even been a problem anyway. Oh , and on that >subject, I also realized that my oil temp sensor is very close to my >exhaust, so I may have even been picking up inaccurate readings anyway. So >, >as soon as I finish my baffling redo, I will relocate my oil temp unit >also. > >Ok, its getting near the holidays and I guess I am getting a little >sentimental. Don't ban me from the list, remember, I did mention my oil >temp >problem and the fact my sensor is to close to the exhaust so there may be >some official KR value there. > >Have a great day, > >Jeff York >KR-2 Flying >N839BG >Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ >My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 >Email jeffyor...@qx.net > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com> >To: <jeffyor...@qx.net> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:20 PM >Subject: Re: Hi Jeff Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter > > > > Jeff, > > > > I can sure relate to family commmittments. I've had five boys myself. >All > > that's behind me now though. Good luck on finishing up the plane. It's > > sure a beauty. > > > > I just finished up scratch-building a Minimax Eros (if you know what >they > > are) and is now flying. I also have a KR-2 project that needs >refurbishing, > > so now that I have something to fly, I guess I'll get back to work on >it. > > > > Maybe you'll make the next Gathering. > > > > Ed > > > > Ed Janssen > > mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <jeffyor...@qx.net> > > To: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:31 PM > > Subject: Re: Hi Jeff Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter > > > > > > > Yes , I flew it several times ( about 16 hours worth) before taking it > > down > > > for what I thought would be a little cowling mod. > > > > > > The story on that is , a friend and fellow pilot ( who also built a > > > homebuilt and is a professional pilot, just to qualify him) thought >that > > the > > > oil temps where to high. We had been flying it around for several >hours > > > when he noticed this on the last of many take offs. > > > > > > So , I began the search to fix this issue. I began by modifying the >lower > > > cowling as we suspected the low pressure side was actually to high due >to > > > the intake. > > > > > > Well, with kids, job change and so on, that modification alone ended >up > > > taking a over a year. Oh, I also forgot to mention losing my hanger as > > well. > > > I ended up having to store the plane for over a year. > > > > > > Forward to near present. > > > > > > After getting the cowling done, and getting back into hanger of my own >( > > > shared the last one) I began the slow and not so regular procedure of > > > putting it back together. > > > > > > Once back together, I took it back up. Several taxi tests and such as >I > > > wanted to re acquaint myself with it. > > > > > > It was just like riding a bike. Took only a little while to get the >hang > > of > > > it. > > > > > > The result of several flight tests showed no change in oil temps. I >then > > > noticed a string of KR net messages on the subject of temps. The >bottom > > line > > > of those emails lead me to believe that I may not have really had a >oil > > temp > > > problem after all. My oil temps where seeing 220 F. Since this was in > > climb > > > but I was afraid of cooking an engine per my friends thoughts. I then > > > decided to redo my engine baffling. > > > > > > This is where I am at present. You can see pictures of current state >of > > > baffle work on my website. > > > > > > I also got involved with a Piper Cherokee. That I think I will have to > > back > > > out of it as the pre inspection was not what I was lead to believe and >now > > > that same mechanic is telling me a whole different story on the >annual. > > Long > > > story but the short of it is that I think I am backing out of that >deal. > > > > > > So between watching my kids and house chores , job, yada yada... I am > > > getting there. > > > > > > I know, if you have your priorities straight.. and I do, I love my >plane > > but > > > not to the extent of having my 3 year old trying to sleep in my van or > > > running around while I work on my plane. > > > > > > I just need to figure out how to have more hours in the day and more >free > > > time on the weekends. > > > > > > Jeff York > > > KR-2 Flying > > > N839BG > > > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > > > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 > > > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com> > > > To: <jeffyor...@qx.net> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:03 PM > > > Subject: Hi Jeff Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter > > > > > > > > > > Jeff, > > > > > > > > I remember first seeing a picture of your beautiful KR2 shortly >after > > you > > > > bought it quite some time ago. I haven't seen any flight reports. >Have > > > you > > > > actually flown it yet? > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > Ed Janssen > > > > mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <jeffyor...@qx.net> > > > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:42 AM > > > > Subject: Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I meant to say was that in 18 years of flying, he may have >never > > > > really > > > > > thought of this situation as being a problem > > > > > > > > > > It also brought to my mind the thought that wheel pants ( not in >his > > > > > situation) and other items may allow for ice build up from >splashing > > > water > > > > > on the taxiways. > > > > > > > > > > Or in other words, it refreshes our minds to remember that winter > > flying > > > > > brings with it additional things to consider other then just how >to > > stay > > > > > warm when we fly. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if I am getting my point across but what I am trying to >say > > > that > > > > I > > > > > was glad I read this because it made me think. > > > > > > > > > > Jeff York > > > > > KR-2 Flying > > > > > N839BG > > > > > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > > > > > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my >KR-2 > > > > > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Ron Freiberger" <ronandmar...@earthlink.net> > > > > > To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:59 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you preflight ice buildup? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Freiberger > > > > > > mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Kip's story say's a lot for all of us to think about. > > > > > > > > > > > > The fact that he has flown this plane for 18 years and never had > > this > > > > > > problem. Therefore this was never part of his preflight. 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