I don't believe anybody has voiced their political opinions!
What's your problem?
Thank you for your 300 jumps!

Joachim


> [Original Message]
> From: isaac milton <rousedab...@yahoo.com>
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: 11/14/2005 9:37:54 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Civil unrest in France
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm building in Boise Idaho, am African American by
> ethniticy,  and was Army Special Forces for nearly 10
> years... wounded in Panama in 89, relatively new
> pilot, but have taken off 300 more times than I've
> landed, so I feel comfortable with you guys.  I enjoy
> the threads, it's helped me a lot, and I spend most of
> my evenings soaking it up.  I'd appreciate,
> respectfully, if you leave the political opinions
> elsewhere, as any position has it's counter, and here
> is not the place.  Don't you agree?
>
> Isaac Milton
> KR-2 ROUSEDABOUT
> Boise Idaho, USA
>
>
> --- Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Phil, and all.
> > 
> > Yep, I'm OK, the "civil unrest" is definitely not in
> > my street. Pity, 
> > though, 'cause it would be a rare opportunity at
> > taking potshots at the 
> > rioters! ;-)
> > 
> > More seriously, the situation in France is quite
> > simple: around all large 
> > cities, we have suburbs full of young Arabs and
> > Africans, whose fathers 
> > came to France long ago when jobs were aplenty.
> > There are also lots of 
> > illegal immigrants there, too. These guys probably
> > represent more than 10% 
> > of the population now, although nobody knows for
> > sure, because the law 
> > forbids to make statistics on an ethnic basis.
> > 
> > In general, these populations failed to succeed,
> > despite the faboulous 
> > help you get from the state (education is free, and
> > of good quality; 
> > parents get monthly child education grants;
> > unemployed people get generous 
> > pensions, and when these dry out, you get a "minimum
> > income" grant which 
> > is about two thirds of minimum wages; public
> > transports are heavily 
> > subsidised; and so on; the list is endless, as is
> > the list of taxes to 
> > finance all that).
> > 
> > These guys are simply not interested in becoming
> > "normal" citizens, and 
> > blame everybody else for their failure. You don't
> > let them do whatever 
> > they want? You're a racist, period!
> > 
> > When France went under attack by Algerian
> > terrorists, each time the police 
> > arrested or killed one, these guys would riot, in
> > support. For the past 
> > ten years or so, they have celebrated on New Year's
> > Eve by burning cars 
> > (about 500 a year). This time, the unrest has been
> > triggered by the fact 
> > that two robbers ran away the police, hid inside an
> > electrical converter 
> > post, and killed themselves.
> > 
> > Make no mistake. France is not an ethnically based
> > nation. We believe in 
> > equal citizenship and common values,  and our model
> > puts the state well 
> > above communities. Religion and race are considered
> > private matters, and 
> > don't get special statuses. We have always had lots
> > of migrants here. Just 
> > look at me: father was half Spanish, half Moroccan;
> > mother is Swiss. The 
> > guy sitting in front of me at the office is from
> > Italian origin. My 
> > assistant is from South East Asia.
> > 
> > But smooth integration does not seem to work with
> > these guys.
> > 
> > In short, France now houses a large hostile and
> > useless population, and no 
> > government will have the balls to deal with the
> > issue, for fear of being 
> > branded racists, or insensitive, or whatever. They
> > will simply dump more 
> > money into these suburbs, and raise more taxes to
> > pay for it.  Their 
> > subsidized housing will probably be repainted and
> > overhauled for the 
> > umptenth time, so that they can vandalize it again.
> > 
> > I'm afraid this country is doomed, because we seem
> > not to know the 
> > difference between being human and being stupid.
> > 
> > Serge Vidal
> > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> > Paris, France
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