And if you seen me and Marty in his KR-2 packed in like a couple of
sardines, you would think his performance would have been compromised
but it was not. On his high speed pass down the runway, the ASI was
reading 219 mph. And in the dive to the airport, the G forces were
pulling my face down and I was praying the wings would stay on since
this was my first flight in a KR. I looked over at Marty and he was
smiling the whole time not concerned a bit. I would be willing to bet we
had 420 lbs in that seat.
Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr....@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr....@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Jeff
Scott
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:02 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-)


Larry,

I think I'll take exception to your description.  Last year's Gathering
when I took Rick Corkendahl (I probably slaughtered the spelling of his
name) with me in my KR, we had a front seat weight of roughly 410#.  I
think Rick would probably attest to it flying significantly sharper than
a Cesstruck, in climb and all other aspects of flight.  I believe we saw
205 IAS in a shallow dive to take a look at the video camera. ;o)  We
were well withing the CG limits, and right at the gross of 1200#.
Although with the plans sized cabin it was quite crowded.

Jeff Scott
N1213W

-- larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> wrote:

  Facts: I am 6'1, 260lbs. Spending my
>whole flying life in Cessnas I have always kept my
>front seat weight below 400lbs, mainly because my lady
>friends were always tiny. 
>Scott 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


My opinion is that if you weigh 260 pounds, there is no way
to build a KR that will allow you to add a passanger of 
any size and keep the CG in the envelope.  

My KR2 has a 24" stretch with an 0-200 and came in at
765 empty.  I weigh 200 pounds and have carried passangers
up to approx 170 pounds.  At those weights it performs
similar to a C-150 in hot weather.  It still handles good in
the air but it is not the "rocket" I enjoy when flying solo.
The weight doesn't hurt to much on the speed but the takeoff
and climb is rather poor, 500fpm on a 90 degree day. My solo 
takeoff weight is generally in the 1050 to 1100 pound range.
I'm using the stock KR2 wing with shorter tips so my wing
is 8 inches shorter then stock.  Every mod makes a difference.



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