Very well put Larry

David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-609-8774
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:59 AM
Subject: KR> Landings/bit long/grab a beer


> 
> 
> As everyone seems to have an opinion on how to takeoff and land
> a KR, I'll throw in my observations after 142 hours of flying mine.
> 
> First, on liftoff and touchdown speeds, I could'nt tell you exactly
> what mine are.  I seldom watch the ASI at that moment.
> On takeoff, after coming in with full power and picking up speed,
> I raise the tail, maintain directional control, and I can feel when
> the airplane is ready to fly.  A slight back pressure on the stick
> will bring the mains off and it's flying.  If things feel a bit "mushy"
> , you're a bit slow so keep the nose down. At 5 feet or more
> above the runway I'll check my ASI and establish climb speed.
> Several times things have felt a bit "mushy" on liftoff and when
> I checked the ASI it was indicating 50 mph. I lowered the nose a 
> bit and it qiickly jumps to 60 or 70 so we can see that the ASI is
> not your best reference at that angle of attack.  At 65 / 70+ mph
> my ASI seems to stablize and becomes an accurate reference.
> I would not advise anyone to try flying off from a three point
> attitude except mayby those KR's with the original short retracts.
> Anyone with fixed gear will be just above the stall and you'd best
> be very careful.  I have longer than standard gear and I've computed
> my three point attitude to be approx 12 degrees, just a few 
> degrees below the wing stall angle.  You won't catch me trying
> any three point takeoffs! 
> 
> So, now you're flying, how will you land that thing.  I think anyone
> that can fly Jim Faughn's discription of "how to land a KR" will
> not have any problems.  I'll just add a few observations of my
> own.  
> 
> First, the KR is a slick little bird and my opinion on why we don't
> see more of them flying is that the pilots are not comfortable with 
> the approach and landing phase of flight.  The quickest and easiest
> solution, I think, is to just add drag to the airframe during the
> approach and landing.  It makes the KR an entirely different airplane
> on landings when you do.
> 
> When I land my KR without the speedbrake, I'm approaching a bit
> nose high, it's hard to maintain a stable airspeed, and it feels like
> I'm trying to balance on a beachball or something.  With my speed
> brake full down (near 90 degrees) , I add two feet of flat plate area
> to the KR and it it becomes a different airplane.  At idle power, my
> rate of decent will increase 300 to 500 fpm.  This requires me to
> carry a bit of power (about 1300 rpm on my 0-200), gives me
> over-the-nose visibility all the way into the flare, and greatly helps
> in stabilizing my airspeed,  
> 
> An honest 70 mph over the numbers is all the airspeed you need
> when flying solo.  I try to have my airspeed nailed when I start my
> flare and I never look at it again during the landing.  You need to
> have you eyes out the window at that point and flying the airplane.
> If you flare a bit high, let the airplane settle and begin the flare
> again as you get close to the runway.  Don't start "hunting" for
> the runway by moving the stick back and forth.  That's a good
> way to get yourself in trouble.  Hold it off the runway as long as
> you can but personally, I'm not comfortable taking mine to a
> full three point attitude.  
> 
> When the mains touch you need a slight forward movement on
> the stick to hold it on.  The primary reason for this, other than
> you may have dropped it in from high enough above the runway
> and you're getting springback from the gear, is that when the
> mains contact the ground and you begin transfering weight from
> the wing to the gear, the balance point of the airplane moves
> forward and the tail will start to settle.  This is for a tailwheel
> configuration, of course, and a tri-gear is just the opposite.
> In other than a full stall, three point landing, the wing could start 
> to generate enough lift to put you back in the air.  On my KR,
> once I can no longer hold the tail up with forward stick, I'm 
> below flying speed and I can firmly plant the tail and begin
> braking.  
> 
> As to the wing low or crab approach in crosswinds, I prefer the
> crab on final and switch to the wing down just before the flare.
> I think the crab is a more comfortable approach, especially if
> you have passangers, and it gives me an idea how much 
> wing-down I'll need in the flare.  The effect of a crosswind always
> seems to be less in ground effect but don't ignore it.  Gust
> will give you more trouble as you are constantly changing
> control inputs.  
> 
> To fly a KR, or any airplane for that matter, I think (I know) you
> have to have a clear mental picture of each phase of flight,
> especially the takeoff and landing, to be successful.  Set in
> the KR and make motor noises until you have the process
> planted in your head and it becomes second nature.  You
> can't be thinking about what to do next in actual flight.
> 
> As always, your results may vary !!!  :-)
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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