Brian you left one out, anyone using the Frise aileron setup is definitely out of the picture since they are strictly a non-aerobatic item whereas the plans built ones are. Personally if I wanted aerobatic capabilities as well as high performance I think I would have gone with the Steen Skybolt as she is designed for them. I've done aerobatics and even had the dubious distinction of looping a Cobra helicopter back when choppers couldn't do that kind of thing and even though I might be a little far out there from mainstream thinking I wouldn't even consider using the KR for aerobatics. Doug Rupert
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