I believe that there is someone else on this list in Salt Lake with a KR.  I
live in Florida and have never seen a density altitude over 2,000', but I do
know that my KR would still climb over 400 FPM with a 2180 VW at 10,000'.
Others also report good high altitude climb in the KR, but I will leave it
to people who have taken off and landed at high density altitudes to give
you the full scoop.

The Jaibru is probably the ideal engine for a KR.  I know of nothing else in
the size range we need that gives as much power at such a light weight.  If
they didn't cost a fortune I and a lot of others would have one.  There are
several KRs flying with them now.  Your next best bet on a budget is the
Corvair.  You also might want to consider a turbo VW.  I will have one for
sale in probably about 6 months after I get the Vair on my current KR.

KRs have very strong and long lasting airframes.  There are a bunch still
flying that were built in the 70s.  You do see some cracks in KRs sometimes,
but the KR does not really rely on the glass for its structure like some
composite planes.  It is better thought of as a wood plane with a thin
fiberglass shell.

Most of the "inherent problems" of the KR were fixed long ago.  They were
known for folding gear and being too low to the ground, but nearly all these
days are built with fixed gear and those problems are gone.  It is actually
lighter weight and faster with fixed gear.  The wheelbase is also wider
which makes it easier to handle on the ground.  The other "problem" was
pitch sensitivity.  My opinion is that is because most people are used to
spam cans with their inherent pitch insensitivity.  A KR goes where you
point it and the most fun you can have on wings.  The 2S also has the tail
much further back and that makes is much less sensitive.  The new airfoil
also makes it more stable.  Basically, what most are building today is not
your father's KR.

Welcome and good luck.



Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt....@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt....@mylist.net]On Behalf Of KM
Urban
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:59 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Newbie Questions


Dear List,
I am new to the list and I have been poking around the KR Net and have found
answers to alot of questions so I will try to keep this short.Just as a
point of interest, I grew up in So Cal and I used to ride my bike (as a kid)
over to Meadowlark and I would stop by the KR factory once in awhile.I got
to meet Ken when he was alive and he always had a minute for me. When I
tried to buy the plans with paper route money, he told me to come by with my
parents and he would sell plans with their blessing. Well that was the end
of that! Here I am years down the road, and I still like the KR planes.
My questions are: How does the plane do at high density altitudes? I live in
the Salt Lake area, and it gets pretty hot in the summer. Has any one found
this to be a problem? Is it realistic to use the 2S as a traveling machine
for two people. What about a Jabaru engine? Has it been tried? Last but not
least, some know it all at Oshcosh last year was explaining to me all the
"Inherent Problems" with the KR and he said the airframe will not last long
due to cracks between the wood and composite material in the airframe.
Sounded hoaky, but I am wondering what is the highest time airframe anyone
has seen? Thanks
Kirk
kmur...@sprintmail.com

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