You are right about te ailerons. I was actually pointing out the fact that there are many considerations to changing the ailerons.
As far as AS&S, I normally stay out of the who is better debate since Spruce and Wicks both sell my instrument lights, but I have some comments here. I have had some email and phone conversations with Jim Irwin and have found him to be a top notch business man that really cares about his customers. It is very rare to find a president of a company that size that will go so far out of his way to satisfy his customers. Being fair to both sides here, I also will say that I know Scott Wick fairly well along with several of the people that work for him and they are also all excellent people to deal with. You don't have to talk with them for very long before you realize that they have the same passion for aviation as any of us do and they really know their products and are equally committed to keeping their customers happy. We are very fortunate to have two excellent suppliers that we can choose to buy from. There are no suppliers I work with in other industries that compare to either Spruce or Wicks. As far as the Garmin price, I work in the marine electronics industry for my day job and am familiar with Garmin from the supplier's side. Garmin, along with several other manufacturers has a MAP, or Minimum Advertized Price, policy for some products. It basically states that you can not advertize below a certain price. This is done usually with a manufacturer's higher end products. The reasons for it are to give the smaller local servicing dealers that will answer your questions and help with installation and operation issues the ability to carry and sell the products without being beat up by the big chain stores and mail order houses and to help prevent price erosion from competition whick causes dealers to push other manufacturer's products that they can still make some money on. There are pros and cons to this, but many of the smaller dealers see it as a noble attempt by the manufacturer to help level the playing field. Personally, if I was bound to not selling below a certain price and I saw one of my competitors breaking the rules and taking away sales from me by "cheating" I would be the first to jump up and blow the whistle on them, although I would do it quietely. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:31 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Issues Netters Ailerons: As Larry stated using ailerons during a stall is not bad or prohibited.