You are right about te ailerons.  I was actually pointing out the fact that
there are many considerations to changing the ailerons.

As far as AS&S, I normally stay out of the who is better debate since Spruce
and Wicks both sell my instrument lights, but I have some comments here.

I have had some email and phone conversations with Jim Irwin and have found
him to be a top notch business man that really cares about his customers.
It is very rare to find a president of a company that size that will go so
far out of his way to satisfy his customers.

Being fair to both sides here, I also will say that I know Scott Wick fairly
well along with several of the people that work for him and they are also
all excellent people to deal with.  You don't have to talk with them for
very long before you realize that they have the same passion for aviation as
any of us do and they really know their products and are equally committed
to keeping their customers happy.

We are very fortunate to have two excellent suppliers that we can choose to
buy from.  There are no suppliers I work with in other industries that
compare to either Spruce or Wicks.

As far as the Garmin price, I work in the marine electronics industry for my
day job and am familiar with Garmin from the supplier's side.  Garmin, along
with several other manufacturers has a MAP, or Minimum Advertized Price,
policy for some products.  It basically states that you can not advertize
below a certain price.  This is done usually with a manufacturer's higher
end products.  The reasons for it are to give the smaller local servicing
dealers that will answer your questions and help with installation and
operation issues the ability to carry and sell the products without being
beat up by the big chain stores and mail order houses and to help prevent
price erosion from competition whick causes dealers to push other
manufacturer's products that they can still make some money on.  There are
pros and cons to this, but many of the smaller dealers see it as a noble
attempt by the manufacturer to help level the playing field.  Personally, if
I was bound to not selling below a certain price and I saw one of my
competitors breaking the rules and taking away sales from me by "cheating" I
would be the first to jump up and blow the whistle on them, although I would
do it quietely.



Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:31 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Issues


Netters

Ailerons:  As Larry stated using ailerons during a stall is not bad or
prohibited.


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