Larry,

a larger wing span indeed would help, provided that the airfoil is
appropriate. It is not necessarily true, that the larger wing span produces
more drag, on the contrary.

Drag from the wing is created in two ways: the first is the drag that is
associated with the specific lift you create at specific speeds. That
correlation can be found for every airfoil in form of the CL/CD (Coefficient
of Lift vs. Coefficient of Drag) diagrams. This is the diagram were the
plotted graph typically looks like a crooked C.
The other part of the drag is created by the fact that the wing is limited
in span, so there is a flow of air from the bottom of the wing towards the
top of the wing going around the edge of the wing. This is what creates the
vortices at the end of the wing, and that is why some poeple put winglets on
the wing end - to prevent this cross flow of air. This darg is by the way
called the induced drag. The drag created by this flow is a multiple of the
drag created by the lift.

If you want to build a low drag aircraft, you try to build with maximum wing
span and a maximum lenght to depth ratio. This way you can minimize induced
drag. This is done with high performance gliders. A good example is the new
"eta" aircraft, information about which can be found in www.leichtbau.de/eta
. This glider has a wingspan of more than 100 feet, and it's best glide
ratio is somewhere close to 70. (Imagine this, you glide 70 miles with
loosing only 1 mile altitude). And yes, these gliders can go fast (140 mph
or faster!!).

One last thing: Gliders certified in Germany need to fulfill +7/-4 g load
requirement, if it is approved for acrobatics it is +11/-7g. Remember, as a
glider pilot you love to fly right into turbulent air, a.k.a. thermals. On a
good day it can be gut wrenching, but exhilirating. If you catch a thermal
that takes you up with about 1,500 fpm it's rough flying, but looking at the
altimeter as it turns so quickly and all that without any engine, that's
what's great about glider flying.

Anyway, bottom line is: If you can increase your wingspan with paying the
penalty of excessive more weight, and if you are sure that the the spars can
carry the additional loads it certainly will help at higher altitude.

Wolfgang

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-bounces+wdecker=cox....@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+wdecker=cox....@mylist.net]On Behalf Of larry
severson
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:34 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> High Alt



>
>Let's see if I understand... If I want better climb on a hot day or at high
>altitudes, what is it that I need? OH, I know, longer wings. Darn, I think
I
>just flunked. OH OH, now I know, it's POWER.

Gee, I guess that those powered gliders are just a figment of my
imagination and lying marketeers.

Longer wings do increase drag, but they also increase lift, reduce stall
speed, and make possible flight with a less powerful engine.

As they said at school, with enough power one can make a brick fly, but if
power is restricted one had better give the vehicle enough wing area to
lift the brick.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com


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