Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Now I know exactly what I
will make the wing skins out of, the next time I build some. 



I think that the question was, what is the reason why Dynel is no longer in
favour?



It is most likely hard to get, but I heard that it is a bear to work with as
it wants to move around a lot an that when it is cured that it bristles up
like a porcupine when you sand it.  This is only hearsay, because I have
never seen the stuff and really don't care if I ever do.



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Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC



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Date: 04/18/04 15:41:26

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Subject: RE: KR> RE: KR Dynel



"Steve: my only real experience with Kevlar is that it makes wonderful

bulletproof vests" NOT.



"Bulletproof"; It slows the penetration of bullets but many types of bullets

/calibers can penetrate a level IV vest

The correct term would have been "Bullet Resistant" or "Ballistic Vests"

just as most watches are "Water Resistant" and a few are "Water Proof" (to n

number of feet)

I have a vest that we shoot during my training courses to show the students

that "Bulletproof" really is just a movie/marketing term.

Movies are wonderful fantasies but real life can be a killer.



I'm waiting on the vest made from spider silk, they gene spliced a spider

and goat, the goat produces the silk protein in it's milk, spider silk is

about three times stronger then Kevlar.

http://www.forbes.com/global/2001/0219/061.html this was written in 2001.



What would happen if Auromat was made with spider silk?



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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On

Behalf Of Doug Rupert

Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:49 AM

To: 'KRnet'

Subject: RE: KR> RE: KR Dynel





Steve: my only real experience with Kevlar is that it makes wonderful

bulletproof vests but since I don't plan on entering combat zones with the

KR, I think I'll leave it's usage to the military. Besides from what I've

read the stuff is a bitch to work with. I believe your money would be better

spent on glass cloth as carbon fiber prevents one from using buried antennae

and these are a major drag factor to the finished product. I have 2 Nomex

flight suits that I value highly and believe they would be of better use to

a pilot than Kevlar.

Doug Rupert.

Simcoe Ontario



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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf

Of Stephen Jacobs

Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:18 AM

To: 'KRnet'

Subject: KR> RE: KR Dynel



My curiosity is probably a bit outdated.



The original KR designs called for a material called Dynel. From what I

have read, this was more of a draper's synthetic fabric like rayon etc.

- not intended to be a structural medium.



It is however reported to be very effective (strong / tough?) when used

as a composite fabric.



The following ectract from an article by jck Cox (At Oshkosh) on the

KR1.



-- "Dynel" is a synthetic fiber made by Union Carbide. It is used on the

KR-1 in much the same way as fiberglass cloth is used to make cowlings,

etc. on other planes. Dynel has the advantage of being four times as

strong as glass, but only half as heavy. The cloth is very soft and can

be stretched to fit almost any shape. 4 ounce per square yard



This outer shell is incredibly light and strong. This writer personally

observed Ken Rand walking up and down the wing of the KR-1, and at the

risk of a repair bill and/or a fat lip, I took the thin trailing edge of

the elevator between two fingers and tried hard to deform it in any

direction





If it was cost effective and did the job, there must be reasons why it

is no longer used - does anyone know what those reasons are.



After a brief encounter with Kevlar, I hope to never use this

uncooperative material ever again - even if it is 6 times as strong,

half the weight and free.



What is working best for a KR2S?



Steve J







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