"Steve: my only real experience with Kevlar is that it makes wonderful
bulletproof vests" NOT.

"Bulletproof"; It slows the penetration of bullets but many types of bullets
/calibers can penetrate a level IV vest
The correct term would have been "Bullet Resistant" or "Ballistic Vests"
just as most watches are "Water Resistant" and a few are "Water Proof" (to n
number of feet)
I have a vest that we shoot during my training courses to show the students
that "Bulletproof" really is just a movie/marketing term.
Movies are wonderful fantasies but real life can be a killer.

I'm waiting on the vest made from spider silk, they gene spliced a spider
and goat, the goat produces the silk protein in it's milk, spider silk is
about three times stronger then Kevlar.
http://www.forbes.com/global/2001/0219/061.html this was written in 2001.

What would happen if Auromat was made with spider silk?

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Doug Rupert
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:49 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> RE: KR Dynel


Steve: my only real experience with Kevlar is that it makes wonderful
bulletproof vests but since I don't plan on entering combat zones with the
KR, I think I'll leave it's usage to the military. Besides from what I've
read the stuff is a bitch to work with. I believe your money would be better
spent on glass cloth as carbon fiber prevents one from using buried antennae
and these are a major drag factor to the finished product. I have 2 Nomex
flight suits that I value highly and believe they would be of better use to
a pilot than Kevlar.
Doug Rupert.
Simcoe Ontario

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Stephen Jacobs
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:18 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> RE: KR Dynel

My curiosity is probably a bit outdated.

The original KR designs called for a material called Dynel.  From what I
have read, this was more of a draper's synthetic fabric like rayon etc.
- not intended to be a structural medium.

It is however reported to be very effective (strong / tough?) when used
as a composite fabric.

The following ectract from an article by jck Cox  (At Oshkosh) on the
KR1.

-- "Dynel" is a synthetic fiber made by Union Carbide. It is used on the
KR-1 in much the same way as fiberglass cloth is used to make cowlings,
etc. on other planes. Dynel has the advantage of being four times as
strong as glass, but only half as heavy. The cloth is very soft and can
be stretched to fit almost any shape. 4 ounce per square yard

This outer shell is incredibly light and strong. This writer personally
observed Ken Rand walking up and down the wing of the KR-1, and at the
risk of a repair bill and/or a fat lip, I took the thin trailing edge of
the elevator between two fingers and tried hard to deform it in any
direction


If it was cost effective and did the job, there must be reasons why it
is no longer used - does anyone know what those reasons are.

After a brief encounter with Kevlar, I hope to never use this
uncooperative material ever again - even if it is 6 times as strong,
half the weight and free.

What is working best for a KR2S?

Steve J



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