Max,
  Thanks so much for your discussion on transfering ownership to a corporation. 
 I had a bit of exposure to
the incorporation process having incorporated as an EAA
chapter in the state of Oregon.  It was a non-profit, but
many of the forms were the same.  Other than bylaws, and
annual filings, it's not too bad in terms of paperwork.
  One question I need to figure out is how this impacts
the FAA and the registration process.  But I can find
a local aviation lawyer I suppose to work out the details
for a small fee when/if I want to cross that bridge.
  Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Hardberger" <capt...@maritimeatty.com>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:39:46 -0500
To: <eng...@earthlink.net>, "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Subject: KR>Insurance & Liability

> As a non-KR-owner, I can only contribute to this thread from a
> lawyer/pilot's general perspective:
> 
> 1.    Any airport, even public, has the right to set the conditions for
> planes based there, as long as the conditions are applied equally, including
> requiring reasonable liability insurance.
> 2.    The states shouldn't be able to require insurance on airplanes, like
> they do on cars, since aviation has been held to be so "inherently Federal
> in nature" that states can't even interfere in it (for example, by requiring
> an additional state pilot's license). I don't know of any state that does
> so.
> 3.    Many airports do require liability insurance, but this is usually
> enforced by merely having a statement on the rental form that the owner has
> it and will keep it. I have never been asked to produce a copy of the policy
> or binder.
> 4.    A statement on the rental agreement that you have insurance doesn't
> affect your liability to whomever you injure or damage subsequently at that
> airport, but it does give the airport a contractual action against you in
> addition to the victim's lawsuit. I cannot imagine why an airport would sue
> under this clause. I would stress, however, that if there were an accident
> involving a mechanical malfunction in an experimental aircraft--something
> laymen would find quite foreseeable--and it were shown that the owner/pilot
> had lied on his application about having insurance, it wouldn't look so
> good. This would be especially true if an innocent victim were to sustain
> great pain and disfigurement and a million dollars in medical bills, and is
> now faced with a cash-strapped owner and no insurance company.
> 5.    Although this is a little off-topic, I would recommend to any owner of
> an uninsured aircraft that he put the plane's record (FAA) ownership in the
> name of a corporation. Although there are some simple things--primarily
> regarding registering the company and keeping corporate accounts
> separate--that the corporation must do, this affords strong protection
> against personal lawsuits AS OWNER OF THE AIRCRAFT. This doesn't help a
> negligent pilot, who can always be sued for his own negligence, but it does
> help to protect an owner and non-negligent pilot. Negligence can be hard to
> prove in aviation cases, so corporate ownership is well worth the money.
> There is nothing improper about placing an airplane under corporate
> ownership, but of course the corporation has to be formed properly BEFORE a
> claim arises. The internet is full of advice on how to do it--some states
> charge as little as $60.
> 
> Above is not legal advice--an aircraft owner should talk to a lawyer in his
> jurisdiction regarding whether he needs or should have insurance.
> 
> Max Hardberger
> 
> 
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