Thanks Sid for the numbers?.  I am using a 3/8 fuel line via a pump to feed the 
TBFI system? jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Aug 10, 2015, at 14:21, Sid Wood via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> FAA document AC 90-89A (now superseded by AC 90-89B) SECTION 11. ADDITIONAL 
> ENGINE TESTS, paragraph 1.e. Fuel Flow and Unusable Fuel Check: states the 
> method to determine the fuel flow needed by amateur built aircraft.
> At the airworthiness inspection for my KR-2 the FAA inspector wanted to see 
> the data and pictures of the tests that I did to determine the actual fuel 
> flow.  For pressurized systems (using a fuel pump) the flow must be at least 
> 1.25 times the WOT requirement and setting at 5 degrees above the maximum 
> angle of attack and minimum fuel in the tank.   For gravity feed systems the 
> number is 1.50 times the WOT requirement.  For engine driven fuel pumps, that 
> may require some creative plumbing for the test.  I used a quart catch jar 
> and timed (in seconds) to fill it.  Put a shut off valve on the end of the 
> hose so you or your assistant can control the start and stop flow into the 
> jar.  I used 3/8-inch tubing for all fuel lines.  My flow numbers were 21 
> gal/hr for the engine pump and 23 gal/hr for the Facet pump.  Those numbers 
> are way over the minimum requirements.  Don't know what 1/4-inch tubing would 
> yield.
> Since my KR-2 has both an electric Facet and engine driven fuel pumps and two 
> fuel tanks, the tests had to be repeated 4 times to measure all line-ups.
> Handling a fuel hose behind an invisible meat chopper in hurricane force 
> winds does present some hazards to your health.  A calibrated inline fuel 
> flow meter will vastly simplify making the measurements.
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Good Info Brian?  my plans were to mount it lower than the wing cells?.  so 
> I?m okay there?  Also transferring to main tank but by 1/4? lines?.. then 
> return overflow to one wing cell again via 1/4 ?   Considering more volume 
> under pump pressure than gravity flow overflow to wing? I would appreciate 
> any comments on line size.. or am I being to engineered?  jw
> 
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 16:27, brian.kraut--- via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Keep those Facet pumps low.  They don't do good with pulling a prime
>> uphill which I learned on my aux wing tanks transferring to the header
>> tank.  I originally had my pump mounted on the back side of the header
>> tank, but I moved it down low on a doubler on the front of the spar when
>> I had an issue with it not sucking up a prime.
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: KR> fuel line through the spar caps?
>> From: ppaulvsk via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
>> Date: Fri, August 07, 2015 11:27 am
>> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
>> Cc: ppaulvsk <ppaulvsk at aol.com>
>> 
>> I wasn't planning on going to the spar cap. Just the center of the web.
>> After the holes are drilled.  I'm putting a 1/8" plywood doubler over
>> them.Then run the tube threw it. Like what Mark said. My goal is to keep
>> the fuek coming out of the  tanks in the same plain befor going though
>> the firewall to the duel Facet pumps. Larry, there is a horizontal brace
>> on the back side of the spar and my floor covers the front side. Like
>> most KR-2S
>> 
> 
> 
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